Grip training

Don't worry about anyone on here Ylem. Just keep training in your basement. Don't worry, you'll get your title shot. Just watch more Rocky, check out the fighter, it's a good movie, and learn from that. It's all about heart Ylem!!

These guys don't know ****. With their ****ing.. technique, and stance and all that bull****.... all you need is heart. You'll prove them wrong when you get your title shot. You can do it!

 

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:smooch yes windigo, i read it the first time you posted that comment. im not quite sure why you keep mentioning about this as its irrelevant? i could say with a vertical punch you never get true allignment either because the elbow isnt locked to full potential so the wrist movement to better allign the hand is pointless and the lack of momentum helps further in making those set of principles pointless in that punch if you ask me bec ause of the lack of momentum and the elbow in this shot? isnt it a kung fu punch similair to a screw shot in boxing? correct me if im wrong but thats what i know a vertical punch as.

Anyhow the hand doesnt stop you or anyone from using proper bone allignment, and has nothing to do with boxing like you said we have gloves on? thats like saying you couldnt lift a dumbell over your head because of the same reason, you can but there is a sweet spot on the bar that will encourage the bones to bear the weight rather than causing the forarms to over stabilize due to picking a less than ideal grip placement on the bar. think of the sweet spot on the bar as elbow placement in a punch because it acts exactly the same.

obveousely you need to contract as you strike toavoid the wrist folding on impact but technique can save energy expenditure usingthe same principle in a strike as i spoke of with a dumbell. which bones you strike with really isnt that important when good elbow placement is applied because an average wrist will easily withstand the forces presented to it with as close to good alignment as possible, getting that elbow in that sweet spot, thats whats important is where the elbow is in relation to the direction the punch will be traveling, if the elbow is anywhere but directly in behind the path the fist has just traveled as the strike connects there is potential for the force to escape from the wrist.

I see what your saying windigo if you wanted to strike somebody with as limp a wrist as possible then the vertical shot would probably be ideal but the overall picture makes the vertical punch a bit useless to be honest your wrist is never going to give away anyway with the forces produced from such a punch so allignment of the hand is fruitless really and the placement of the elbow further hinders the power of the shot and potential of force that can effectiveley be applied behind the shot.

Id rather have good elbow placement and more momentum behind the shot and use a little more forarm strength which would hardly be much more than in a vertical punch but would allow for so much more forceto be transfered which is the idea in a punch isnt it?

 

As lefty said ylem, your only 22 im 2 years older than you myself and i think you could be a decent boxer in a few year if you listened to every bit of advice youve been given and started working on it, and youve been given a ton of good advice, it is very hard getting rid of bad habits, believe me i know but itll be worth your time trust me, you will be so much faster stronger and waste less energy so youll have more gas, not to mention you will be more functional against a real opponent because lets face it, your not even functional against a heavy bag at the moment, you would struggle with an untrained drunken average joe on the street with what your doing at the moment and the idea with boxing is to sparr and box people really but like i said if your happy just hitting a heavy bag then carry on, but lose the ego or youll end up getting hurt one day. if you realised we was trying to help you, but you think we are trying to make ourselves look good on a forums? how do you do that exactly? its a forums lol

If you just try a few things out we mentioned on the bag you will probably feel straight away the benefits.

We are just trying to help but if your ego doesnt allow for you to listen then it is a waste really of both your time and your potential, because you could save yourself so much energy and be a much better fighter for it.. your only cheating yourself ylem, no one else loses out if you dont take advice.

 

Your stance is truly wrong Ylem, try to accept what these people are telling you. You wouldn't last long boxing like that. Your footwork is sloppy, you do not rotate your hip when you punch, it's just very wrong altogether.

 

Ylem, why are you hitting such a small bag which weighs under 100lb? You're a big guy and so should use a big bag. I hit a martial arts heavybag at my gym which is 200lbs, and I'm much smaller than you.

You need to listen to the advice that these guys are giving out, and get yourself to a gym.

 

the bags a 30 inch 40 lb everlast that i took about 10 lbs of stuffing out of leaving 15 lb sand 15 lbs stuffing and filled with 62.8 more lbs of sand.

its a very hard bag and dosnt swing any where near as much as an acutal 100 lb heavy bag swings.

 

I don't get the obsession with how heavy your bag is. It weighs 100lb, happy days.

Are you going to reply to the other things that have been said?

 

Point is, it still only weighs 100lbs, that's light for a guy of your size. But a big heavy bag that doen't swing so much, you will be able to work round it and get much more benefit.

 

I was referring to Ylem. The weight of his heavy bag is irrelevant if he can't even get very basic techniques down.

 

Yea that is true, one step at a time I guess.