Grip training

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by withoutwire, Dec 11, 2010.


  1. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    nope, no problems with my stance or my power.

    worth my time or not worth my time its the only gym in the area thats open at an acceptable time as i work 11:30pm-7:30am and still have to drive an hour to get there.

    i have my reasons for what they see when i "push" i dont need to make excuses ill just take the advice thats good and discard the rest.
     
  2. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think this would work to a degree but it's just no good to try and mimic someone. Guys like Tyson have the power because of their leverage, size, weight etc etc. When I throw a straight right I throw a punch that I find generates the most power for me, this may be nothing at all like anyone else's technique but it works for me. A punch is unique to an individual so trying to mimic someone else just gets you nowhere.
     
  3. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As it's been stated, your stance is awful. You don't have much power at all in your punches, mostly down to the fact when you punch your rear foot comes off the gound...

    Well then you're wasting a lot of time and energy to go and train with a shitty coach. Maybe you should stop. I could drive an hour to learn kickboxing with a shitty coach but why the hell would I do that?

    Disregard the rest? All the points on your bad technique are valid. There's room for improvement but you seem to think you know what needs to be worked on and how. How you can possibly disregard any of the points so far is beyond me.
     
  4. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well they're not me they're not my sparring partners they dont hold my pads and they're not my coach.

    they're critiquing a video with the sole goal to make them look like they really know what they're talking about and i dont.

    plenty of what they say can be disregarded.
     
  5. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually they took the time to critique your awful technique to point out a few things you could work on to improve, but as usual the huge ego of Ylem is preventing him from taking cristisism.

    Face it, you suck at boxing. I'm not saying that to be a dick, it's true. People give you valid advice and you throw it back in their face. These guys try to help you, but you think you know better. You're an ignorant, egotistical ******.
     
  6. lefty

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    Try and watch some video of top Russian amateurs, from my observations they generally have the best posture and best power. Your stance is your major issue and everything works off that, you need to unlearn, get to a trainer and listen to them. You look exactly the same as your year old videos so it's gonna take some time to unlearn if you've been training like that regularly.
     
  7. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    my stance is what works best for me. i could explain it to you but im sure youd just tell me im wrong and i can do it better your way.
     
  8. wayneflint

    wayneflint Active Member Full Member

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    I watched you work the bag, i dont care which video it was, i dont see why anyone should help you really, i just gave you over a years worth of stuff to work on in that post alone which was basically exactly what lefty was saying, but yet you refuse to take any advice, but like i said if your happy looking like you can half hit a bag to people who dont box or fight and that is your goal then fine, but if you want to learn how to fight then you need to start again from the ground up.

    How about you come back to me with another video when youve worked on the stuff i and lefty already mentioned.
     
  9. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What have you trained in, Wayne? You seem to know quite a bit.
     
  10. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ylem I know I talk some **** to you but I have no agenda here, I swear to whatever that I don't care what anyone thinks of me or my boxing knowledge.
    I'm giving you the same advice I'd give to anyone who showed me that video. We both know that you don't have sparring partners or a coach, my whole issue with you since you've been here is your BS and reluctance to admit that you're wrong.
    The reason why I find it frustraing for you to not admit you're wrong at anytime is because it's that sort of attitude that completely stifles growth in any way.
    Get real with yourself man, you're only hurting yourself.
     
  11. lefty

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    Ylem put your ego away, it's not about your way or my way, it's about some basic biomechanical principles that work for every human being who isn't deformed in a major way. If you want to explain how your stance works for you then go ahead, I don't see it.
     
  12. Onepunch

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    I wouldn't. especially not in the amatuers. My advice would be to go for more current fighters, especially ones with great fundamentals, yet suit your body type and punch mechanics, as well as watching high level amatuer videos as suggested by lefty, although they are less abundant.

    This is why my original post suggested finding someone with similar attributes to yourself. This would include things such as height and body composition. I also said it's not ideal, and it was implicit that I was talking in the absence of a coach.

    However, in direct response to your comment
    I disagree that a punch is completely unique to an individual. There are variations that suit some guys, but they are relatively minor and the besic concepts of leverage are almost always the same. At the end of the day some techniques generate force better than others.

    I see no reason why watching a fighter with the same attributes as you could not help you to address flaws in your own technique. I want to make it clear that I am not suggesting anyone become some Tyson clone etc, but to see where they get their leverage from and how they generate force can only be beneficial to you, provided you're not watching fighters such as Roy Jones Jr or Prince Naseem.
     
  13. lefty

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    Wayneflint and I basically gave you the same feedback at the same time Ylem, what does that indicate to you?
    I agree with you about watching fighters onepunch, watching a fighter closely and feeling their body movements as you watch is the same thing as doing it according to your brain. Mental rehearsal can be as good as a workout for an athletes skills.
     
  14. Amin

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    There's no shame in taking advice bro. If you truly want to be good, then you need to continuously improve on your technique and your style. Even everyone's favorite boxers have bad habits they need to work on.

    Think of it as an opportunity man, don't be so set in your ways. The stance is the basis of it all though, that's where I would start.

    These guys are giving good advice, take it.
     
  15. Primate

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    No, this guy is just a massive troll.
    There's no way he's ever been coached in any way. There's no way he's ever sparred with that stance and that technique, and there's no way he's ever had a decent coach hold pads for him the way he punches.

    It's got to be a troll job.

    Ylem, if you have sparred, hit pads with an even semi-competent coach or been to a gym that's even remotely legitimate you'd understand a lot of the reasons why what you're doing is incorrect.
    There's no internet coaching that can help you. Either you're going to go to a decent gym and get some real coaching or you're not.
    If you don't find a coach and start working on improving yourself as a boxer then you'll post another video in a year or so and you'll have exactly the same crappy technique and crappy stance and overall crappy display of 'boxing' (and I use that term in the loosest sense).

    If you're really too arrogant to take advice (or just to ignorant to see that there's anything wrong with what you're doing) then you're never going to improve, and I feel genuinely sorry for you considering what's going to happen if you eventually get in the ring and spar with the wrong guy.