Groves announcement tomorrow

He's creating a new Twitter. :happy:happy:happy:happy

 

I've always been a DeGale fan, he's actually one of the reasons I started following boxing avidly, but I don't have animosity towards Groves and think he has some great attributes in the ring as well as some that let him down.
But anyway, a move up to 175 is an awful decision... Could you imagine GG taking one of Sergey Kovalev's punches? Jesus Christ, he'd be getting stretchered out of the arena - Groves' chin is a major weakness of his, as well as a questionable gas tank.
A poster above wrote how Groves is short for 175, and I think he stands just a fraction under 6 foot, but regardless let's just say he's 6 foot...
He'd still be taller than Adonis, Pascal, Braehmer [I think], the same height roughly as Beterbiev and an inch or so shorter than Kovalev. But that's not the issue, the problem is Groves won't be able to hold those shots. Beterbiev for example is an absolute monster, heavyweight [90kg] for most of his amateur career has to boil down also, and will most likely move up to Cruiserweight in the future; Kovalev also a big guy, quite tall, not muscle bound but a big 175 guy who has spoken about going up in weight. Adonis, shorter for a LHW, smaller than his 5'11 listing I think, but has huge power in his left-hand.
These 3 guys alone will cause Groves big problems, and that's without mentioning other guys on the come up, Mekhonetsev, Gonzales etc... All of whom cause Groves big problems.
In my opinion, GG's getting finished if he moves up.

 

Groves china chin at LHW? he would get destroyed. he inst good enough to win a world title anyway 3 attempts 3 failures he would have to fight a paper champ or get an interim belt to be a world champion.

 

He's going back to Myspace.

 

Groves hasn't got the chin or the stamina to compete with the elite, he should avoid big punchers like Abraham and try for a title at European level. Going to LHW would be suicide.

I like George, he has excellent boxing skills, easily enough to outbox a lot of the top guys, it's just his chin and stamina that let him down.

 

He already has won the European so why go back?

 

I've just read his interview on sky sports there, and he says he's even contemplating working with Robert McCracken, or Shane McGuigan.

Fair play to him, I think either trainer would have him in better shape than he's been in since he went with paddy. No doubt in my mind his conditioning is his biggest issues. And I reckon with either trainer they could address this problem.

 

No way should he move up. He's clearly a SMW at most. He needs to live the life a bit more.

I hope he finds a proper trainer, drops the ego and gives it another go.

 

Shame that he will never work with Booth again.

I doubt he'll ever look as good as he did under him again.

Roach would be a great shout. They'd compliment each other, George could get away from here for a bit and he'd have world class sparring.

 

YES! But I can also say that regardless of whether he gave a good impression of himself in the Froch fights - they were happen too soon. He is young in terms of boxing age, and he has a long time left.

Look at how he dealt with Paul Smith & how Abraham did... are we saying that Smith improved drastically or are we saying that GG done him a kipper & made him look poor.

GG went through the mill with Froch,in only his 20th fight or so... he has a lot too give. and seems open to the fact he has made a mistake with Paddy..fair play.

 

I genuinely think he looks a lost fighter but not because anything has particularly gone wrong, I think it's a simple case of him and the teams that have been around him not knowing what way he should approach his fights and what style he should settle on.

Again it's clear that George no matter what way he fights will always be struggling a little (sometimes a lot) in the championship rounds, therefore I have always believed even since way before the Froch fight that he should fight at maximum pace/effort for quite simply as long as he can. He almost had Froch out of there in the first and hurt him repeatedly for the first 5 or 6 rounds, yes he was blowing on empty around the 8th, however, George will quite probably be blowing on empty by the 10th no matter how he fought and he takes away his major strengths by trying to box his way into a fight in the first four or five rounds and preserving stamina and thereby holding back on the power that he really does possess.

I am not sure any other super-middleweight could have taken what Groves put on Froch for the first six rounds in there first fight. They tried to be too clever in the second fight and it was simply a matter of time before George got just a little tired and he makes the mistake that unfortunately his defence/chin will not be able to deal with.

It may not be out of the Roach/Hunter/Steward textbook but I think George should give it another run at a title and quite simply use what his greatest strengths are, Power and Speed for the first six or seven rounds of a fight, I think he still wins a world title at some stage if he goes via this route.

 

Good post to some extent, but I disagree with your ****ysis. Groves is blowing hard at the end of fights not because he has apalling stamina, but because he's fighting in a style which means he's always going to be tired at the back end of a fight.

He threw over 200 punches more than Jack, yet connected with less. For someone who is capable of fighting on the back foot as a counter-puncher, those sorts of numbers are ridiculous.

He should be looking to find a coach who realises what his strengths are. Fitzpatrick got it all wrong, what Groves needs now is not a 'yes' man, he needs someone who will tell him straight.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...l-Froch-friend-got-help-good-talk-issues.html

good read

 

very good interview that and pretty honest too about things.

 

McCracken would be an ideal fit but clearly there is a massive elephant (or Cobra) in the room with that proposed relationship.