Groves beef with lee froch on twitter

Chavez-Froch wouldn't even be PPV. Noone is talking about Chavez-Froch apart from Froch, everyone is talking about a Groves rematch, it's the biggest payday for him by a country mile

 

What planet you on? Froch v Groves easily makes Carl more money than Chavez v Froch in America

 

How many PPV sales did Froch vs Groves do?

I am taking a fairly confident stab at 175,000 if the Kessler II fight did 250,000

Groves bought very little to the table.

PPV is £15 in the UK. In the USA it is $70 which is about £40+.

Chavez Jnr has a rabid Mexixan fanbase,

Given that nearly 1 US PPV is worth 3 British ones, do you think that in the USA alone more than 50,000 people will buy Froch vs Chavez Jnr?

Before you even take into account the 50,000 hardcore Froch fans who will buy it.

Then add in it will be in a significantly bigger stadium than the O2, possibly double the size and you can see why the fight is very financially appealing.

And winnable.

Froch vs GGG though will do nothing and is not viable :good

 

You're fairly confident even though Hearn said all indicators suggested it was much bigger than the Kessler numbers?

And whatever you think about what Groves brought to the table on Saturday, what happened in the ring and the reaction to it means that the rematch would be massive. There's already talk of Wembley stadium and record PPV numbers because it's the only fight people want to see.

If Froch legs it to Vegas it won't be for the money, that's for sure, and his credibility in the UK will take a bigger battering than his jaw did on Saturday.

 

It could be as its all about risk/reward. Froch fights Groves here, gets a good payday BUT if he loses Ward wont go near him and the Chavez fight becomes a harder sell...Froch wants Ward for his titles and to say he beat everyone he faced,if he loses there is nothing else proven other than Ward is No 1 in the weight and Froch can argue he is still No 2. Chavez Jr and Groves rematches are still sellable.

Froch v Chavez Jr will get Froch a decent payday and is the most winnable of the 3 options i reckon, win that and he can still fight Ward and win or lose he can still fight Groves (unless Groves now holds a title and moves on saying Froch doesnt deserve a title shot-repaying the 'snub')

 

The rematch of Froch vs Groves will of course be much bigger, it would exceed the Kessler II fight and probably get close to half a million PPVs. An amazing feat :good

The financial issue though is that to match that, Chavez vs Froch would only have to sell 165,000.

Which it would. And the some!

If I was Froch's financial adviser, I would say take both fights

But take Chavez first.

 

How did you work that one out?

The fights not an easy sell. Both coming off controversial wins, casual Mexican fans don't know who Froch is, casual English fans don't know Chavez JR. As a PPV Sky or HBO wouldn't touch it with a shitty stick

 

I think you're overplaying Froch's reputation in the US and also assuming that Chavez Jnr will be a big sell just because he's Mexican! He won his last fight controversially, and had only sold 4,000 tickets for an 8,000 capacity venue...

 

In your keenness to see a re-match you guys are well underestimating the US market and its global influence. Any chance to gain exposure there should be capitalised on.

 

At this stage of his career it's not about Froch getting "exposure". He's got one or two fights left in him so should be going for the biggest fights. It's not like he's a young fighter for whom getting exposure in the US could pay dividends over the coming 5 to 10 years.

Both financially and in terms of his "legacy" (seeing as he's so fond of talking about it), Groves is THE fight.

 

Sorry, but that's all wrong. Froch-Groves was doing four times the numbers of Froch-Kessler. It did much better.

 

Hmm. Maybe.

I'm sure he'll be well advised by the money men.

Securing future paydays (not just in the ring) is as important as 'legacy' in the real world.

 

Froch is such a twat.

He would never admit to being wrong, he is an arrogant **** who is so far up his own ass, he has built a fully furnished flat in it.

He wont fight groves again, he hasnt got the balls to do it, instead he will chase easier fights (in his head) and lose.

He may be a world champion, but he certainly isnt acting like one...

He would rather go to america, and let the Yanks watch his demise live, and go away and
sulk for a fortnight, than give the British fans what they want, the rematch.

If that happens, he will always and forever be known as a shithouse.

But saying that he is halfway there now with the fans.

 

It's all well and good predicting the number of PPV buys, but it depends how the money is split. Would Froch get 50% of USA PPV money Vs Chavez? Probably not. Depending on the split, that could make Groves the more lucrative fight.

 

Everything else that either said could be put down to pre fight trash talk.This was a personal insult copied from James Degale.Doubt its got any factual basis,just something to say when they're lost for words.