Groves on ESPN/Fitzpatrick in 'Jab' Magazine

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  1. GrandSlam

    GrandSlam Member Full Member

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    Does anyone think these guys are starting to take the whole thing a bit too far? Assuming a sports psychologist means someone is 'broken', 'McCracken is lying to Froch and that's a sign of weakness'.

    The pair of them are spouting b*llocks to anyone who will listen and making an awful lot of assumptions IMO. Also full of contradictions. According to Groves 'No current fighter talks about their legacy', and Fitzpatrick says 'a warrior is someone who can take punishment, not show they're hurt, and come back fighting' - which you'd think defines Froch - but that 'Miguel Cotto is a great fighter despite losses because he took punishment without blinkning'.

    I mean, literally...the pair of these guys are talking like they're a bunch of intellectuals and psychological geniuses rather than a boxer and a boxing coach preparing for a fight.

    Anyone think it's just going abit too far now?
     
  2. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch and groves are pretty much as bad as each other with all this stuff, that's all that needs to be said really.
     
  3. Nathan Bucks

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    I'll start by saying Groves is an great fighter.

    That aside, the whole thing is getting ridiculous, definitely been taken to far.
    The whole "everything for a reason" is the worst of all. Like he needs a strap line that really means nothing.

    Really hope Froch can KO him, although its a big ask. Going to be a great fight.
     
  4. MVC.

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    Groves has completely ruined his image

    I mean remember the hate Froch was getting after the first fight, everyone loved Groves. But most are sick to death of him now apart from a couple of London boys on here
     
  5. Mufc30

    Mufc30 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeh Groves needs to start wrapping it up now, its getting quite tiresome. Fact is though thats his plan to keep needling away at Froch...might not have the effect they hope though....
     
  6. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Fitzpatrick is disrespectful fu ck

    what he acussed Manny steward of was disscussting
     
  7. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What did he say ashish?
     
  8. Brixton Bomber

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    When has Carl EVER had to see a specialist about psychology? Never.

    He tells ANYONE that will listen that he is a 'warrior' and people agree. Groves pulled him up on it, gave him no respect (unlike everyone else), told him what he'd do and went and done it.

    It's not like Carl was booking in appointments to see a quack after the Bute fight was it?

    Carl's mind got broken by Groves. Fact. Look at him on Ringside before the first fight - Nearly broke down in tears ffs.
     
  9. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    acuused him of tampering with Vlad's wraps before the hate fight , Manny tried to go for the cu not
     
  10. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    There are LOTS of media outlets that will want interviews from George; he will be asked the same boring questions by the hacks and therefore will repeat a LOT of his answers. It's not necessarily his fault.
     
  11. GrandSlam

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    True...remember though, he knows about the psychological side of it, and studied elements of it at University. Maybe the whole point of having to headline the biggest event in British Boxing History - as it's being dubbed - has meant he wants to get everything right, and realises he need a change of attitude. People's lives and perceptions change.

    In what way is Froch not a warrior - by his own definitions of the word? He took the rematch when a LOT of people said he wouldn't. He's never swerved anyone.

    And just read this on another ESPN article from Groves:

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    'The last time I saw Carl I had to ask him to promise me not to pull out because I was getting strong indications that could be the case, because of the things he's doing and the way he's behaving'

    I mean, literally, WTF? I really hope he gets f*cking smashed to pieces and has to explain himself after the fight and go rebuild his career.
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  12. Nathan Bucks

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    Totally agree with this.

    He was in a great position after the first fight. Everyone loved him. If he hadn't moaned form then til now he would probably still be well liked.

    Think he has ruined that. Everyone is bored with his whining.
     
  13. GrandSlam

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    Apologies..that was copying in black, so I typed it instead cos I hadn't realised, and now the above post is a shambles...
     
  14. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    the last time this bull**** was posted someone brought up old audley quotes which showed froch was using sports psychology a while ago. it's no less an aspect of sports science than nutrition. no big deal, and the groves camp's need to blow it out of all proportion hints at a self-doubt that should be apparent to any budding pyschologist.
     
  15. Furey

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    Everything Groves is saying and has said is to get the mental edge on Froch so that come fight night, he's doubting himself and also simply wants to hurt Groves with the red mist coming down... taking him away from his game plan.

    Let's also not forget, a lot of the shouting or whinging as Froch likes to put it that Groves has done was because he didn't have promotional or managerial backing so he had to do everything himself.