Groves to beat Froch ?

Degale was right when he said Froch is spoke of like hes the terminator.

Look how he struggled againts Jermaine Taylor, robbed Andre Dirrell and then lost clearly to Kessler before being schooled by Ward he could just of easily have had four losses on his record.

Hes been very lucky

 

Groves is not ready for Froch... His best win is old man Glencoffe...

 

The fact you have to emphasize he got beat " clearly " by Kessler, tells me you're chatting ****. Kessler fight was a close fight, the Dirrell fight was close but no way was Dirrell going to win using those tactics away from home, if he was the home fighter and the champ then maybe he would of got the nod, not the other way round though.

Taylor had a good few rounds early on, but started to get worked from about round 8 and it was on the cards he was going to fold... no luck in it, that's why fights are 12 rounds long and not 11 and half.

Actually thinking about it, you can go through most fighters careers and point to fights that were close and say they were lucky to win.

Froch has been beat by two people, only one of those people beat him convincingly and he looks like he's got a chance to go down as one of the ATG's. So the reality of it is, Froch has been fighting at world level for the last 5 years and has only been beat once convincingly and that was at the top level.

 

I really like Groves and i do think he'll win a world title at some point. But he's not going to win it against this version of Froch. I re-watched the Bute and 2nd Kessler fights a couple of days ago and one of the things I couldn't help but take away was just how relentless Froch is. He took some bombs in both fights (particularly in the Kessler fight), and as hard as Groves appears to punch amongst the somewhat limited competition he's faced so far; I don't think he hits as hard as Kessler. Though it's possible he possesses harder 1 punch power than Froch, I reckon Carl will be able to take Groves' best in much the same way he's taken the best of pretty much everyone he's ever fought. The same can't be said about Groves, who is somewhat chinny.

In terms of attributes that will come into play in this fight:
Froch has the better chin (and by some distance).
Froch has a better engine (though Groves' has improved as was evidenced in his fight against Old Man Johnson).
Froch has improved his jab and his superior reach will aid in his counteracting of Grove's superior speed.
Groves is younger and less shopworn (but arguably less battle hardened and less experienced over the distance).

I feel that Groves may start well; utilising good movement to get in and out quickly against the slower Froch. But at some point Froch is going to catch him at which point we'll see how much Groves' powers of recuperation & his ability to fight whilst hurt have improved (if at all since the Anderson fight). I see the fight ending anywhere from the 6th to the 10th in favour of the champ. That said i'm a fan of both fighters and a Groves win, whilst surprising would also be pretty cool (even if it does derail a potential second fight between Froch and Ward). If Groves does win, it'll be on the back of a similarly defensive game plan to the one Booth cooked up for the Degale fight. However I feel Froch and in particular Rob McCracken are way too savvy to have not thought up a suitable response should Groves adopt such a strategy.

 

I doubt it. I expect Froch to win...............

 

I think Groves will take it also.. Don't really expect Groves to stand and trade with Froch, I expect a similar performance to what Dirrel did against Froch, I can see the crowd possibly booing & a lot of people arguing that Froch should have got the decision due to him coming forward & being aggressive, I expect Adam Booth to set up an excellent game plan.
Also Froch has already been telling Groves not to run, so he must be expecting similar tactics.

 

It's possible, as under Adam Booth, the strategy will no doubt be to frustrate Froch.

The problem is, Groves is not as naturally athletic as Haye. While Groves' defense is reasonable, his punch resistance is not that great, he marks up easily, bruises easily and bleeds. While he may win quite a few rounds against Froch with a Dirrell/Ward type blueprint, he will probably get stopped late on account of cuts, despite being ahead on the scorecards.

 

I'll tell you this for nothing, Froch's "convincing win" over Kessler in the rematch was no more clear than Kessler's victory in the first fight.

I wouldn't say Froch was lucky either but he was down about 9 rounds to 2 against Taylor in my opinion as well.

Having said that I still have Froch a big favourite.

 

God I hope not, can you imagine how many years of crap that would spawn around here?

 

:rofl

Oh yeah. Froch to win by TKO. 8-10 IMO depending on Groves' beard and stamina

Groves just hasn't shown anything really special even against the limited opposition that he has faced. Props to him for wanting the fight, and I may be underselling him, but I can only see this going one way.

 

Expect Froch to win, but this is boxing, you never know.

Groves has a magnificent right hand counter and Froch tends to run straight onto them, he did with Kessler in both bouts. I'm not implying Groves punches harder than Kessler, but Cotto did punch harder than Marquez, and Marquez was the one who turned Pacquiao's lights out, so you never know.

Froch has been in many wars aswell, so he's one of those guys who might grow old overnight, I sure hope not, but boxing is always going to be the theatre of the unexpected.