Groves v Eubank official poll

I was talking about overall ko ratio of jr, ok lets leave that out.

Groves does have a very good boxing brain. But he has slow down a touch, at his best v froch 1. I see it being competitive for the first half, second half Jr takes over when groves tires and probably forced a stoppage late.

 

Groves is going to outclass EUbank Jr assuming the fight takes place. Chris Eubank Sr looks worried to me. Fighting against a skillful technical boxer puncher is going to be a shock to EUbank. He will be shocked when he can't find Groves and discovers Groves is faster than him. I hope Jr has a really good chin because he will get abused a lot in this fight and have to walk through a lot of fire.

 

I watched the Degale fight again... Groves today looks ponderous & half the fighter he was back then in comparison. I think Froch ruined him a little.

 

Groves isn't elusive, Eubank will have no problem finding Groves if Chudinov and Cox could so easily walk him down and pressure him. If Groves wins it's because his offense, which is his defence, creates space for him to work and forces Eubank into a counter punching role where Groves dictates the pace.

I think it's gonna come down to how CEJ deals with Groves power. Groves isn't as fast or as sharp as he used to be but he still hits fricken hard. If he can make CEJ sit back a bit and give him space and time to work then he can dictate the fight and break Eubank down.

But I think Eubank will have too much youth, too much pressure and grind Groves down.

 

I'm still going for Groves. After the quarter finals I'm not so sure though. I think Groves has a habit of fighting on the inside too much, which against Eubank may be dangerous. Eubank's superior stamina against Groves' stamina which isn't great combined with his average chin may cause Eubank to come on strong late.

However, I still don't see Eubank as a particularly big hitter at all and despite his chin Groves can definitely hurt him I think. If Groves can stick to his great jab and stay on the outside then he should build up a lead. Eubank will finish strong late and most likely hurting Groves but I still think Groves will hurt Eubank at some point.

Because of this I see Groves winning a close decision.

 

Confused by people talking about Jrs youth being an advantage, there is only 18 months between them. They both should be at or approaching their peaks.

 

For some reason I'm leaning towards Saint Groves here.

 

On no planet does BJS beat Groves.

 

I like Eubank for the win but wouldn't bet on this fight.

Agree with the general consensus, which is how Jr takes Groves right hand.

Groves is technically superior and does hit harder. But it seems like to him boxing is a job where Jr lives and breathes it. He will be far fitter and far hungrier and Groves has slowed down since Froch 1 and i think if it goes past 7 rounds CEJ will grind him down.

 

Ive gone for Groves but im not half as sure as i would of been around a year ago. Eubanks is really beginning to look the real deal where ive always believed he was a bit of a hype job. Groves is good enough to get hit a lot less than he does, but he does. Eubank throws a hell of alot if you let him. Also Groves didnt look comfortable when Cox came out at him at a hell of a pace so early and Eubank likes a nice fast pace too and seems to have the tank to keep it going.

Tough one but Groves will grind a win out of this.

 

The consensus was that Jr was quite poor but Groves was considered at a high level. For them to have a close fight you must now think that Eubank has gotten better.

I don't know what Eubank has achieved or accomplished for people to give him the edge against Groves but he does have a good chin and nasty uppercuts. Will be a good fight either way.

 

What had Spence achieved to be considered the favourite against Brook?

The eye test, you either believe what you see or you don't. Jr is pretty much at his peak, I expect him to beat Groves devastatingly.

I always said it only takes 1 win to change all of the opinions about Jr and this is it.

 

Very intriguing fight. Groves clearly has the better skill set, but lacks the stamina and doesn't have the best of chins.

Eubank jr on the other hand, as wild as he is, he definitely had the stamina and the chin.

Although Groves clearly beat Martin Murray, he did have some problems. And I remember thinking, "if only Murray had a bit more power in his shots, he could've swung the momentum of the fight". Eubank Jr can certainly do that to Groves

Groves looked good against Cox, but let's not forget Cox is a British level middleweight.

Does anyone know how they get paid with WBSS? Cos this fight is definetly going to get better numbers.

 

I think it's more a case of their respective ring age as opposed to calendar years. Groves has had some hard fights - Anderson, the Froch fights, Jack, Rebrasse, Murray, Chudinov, fights where he's had to dig deep even if the results alone indicate him as a conclusive winner. You could even include Degale, though that was more a technical game of chess than a dogfight. Eubank has not hard a lot of hard outings, other than maybe the early part of the Spike fight (Saunders outboxed him early but again he wasn't taking a beating). IMHO he is the fresher of the two. Whether it is enough to offset Groves significant edge in experience remains to be seen.

 

Cej is much fresher of the two, and that might play a factor in the fight. I like Groves a lot but somehow I'm not totally convinced he makes right kind of progress with Mcguigan. IMO he gives too many free shot (for example Jack kd) and let opponent push him to the ropes loosing control and balance every now and then. I think he can outbox Cej 85% of the time but I'm worried what happens with those 15% - if he lets Cej tee off him.