Groves v Saunders

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  1. BJS KO

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  2. BJS Dec

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  3. Groves KO

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  4. Groves Dec

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  1. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Who why and how??
     
    Beouche, Feb 18, 2018
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  2. uppercut_to_the_body

    uppercut_to_the_body Well-Known Member Full Member

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    BJS decision.

    He is too fast, too slick. BJS 2.0 wouldn't lose many rounds against GG
     
    uppercut_to_the_body, Feb 18, 2018
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    BJS 2.0 gave GG Groves ''nightmares'' when they sparred each other.

    'Question: Is George Groves a tougher opponent for Chris Eubank Jr than Billy Joe Saunders was in 2014?

    Adam Booth: “Groves is more dangerous but less tricky. Billy Joe is not as easy to get to as George. Once George stops punching, he’s not difficult to get to, whereas Billy Joe is difficult to get to whether he’s punching or not punching.


    “For Eubank Jr, the Billy Joe Saunders loss doesn’t look so bad now because of what Billy Joe has gone on to do. Also, I’ve been around Billy Joe. I’ve seen him spar Groves and he gave Groves nightmares. I know what Billy Joe is about. Given Eubank’s lack of experience in the amateurs, he did well to make the Saunders fight as close as it was.”
     
    Serge, Feb 18, 2018
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  4. Deew

    Deew Active Member Full Member

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    Groves is too big and strong.

    And besides, he's fought in front of 80'000 people at wembley.
     
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  5. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Very interesting fight, think the Groves jab once again would be a big factor.
     
    yesihavearm2, Feb 18, 2018
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  6. uppercut_to_the_body

    uppercut_to_the_body Well-Known Member Full Member

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    BJS has the best jab in Britain. Stiff, slick southpaw INGLE jab beats GGs.
     
    uppercut_to_the_body, Feb 18, 2018
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  7. uppercut_to_the_body

    uppercut_to_the_body Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jabs Landed / Thrown
    BJS v Lemule:
    103/279 - 37%

    GG v Eubank:
    33/175 - 19%
     
    uppercut_to_the_body, Feb 18, 2018
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  8. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Not an Ingke jab though, Tibbs did more for Saunders' technically. All Ingle has done is improve his fitness.
     
    CutThroatFade, Feb 18, 2018
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  9. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    But compare the opponents. Plodding bum Lemieux v dynamic head mover in Eubank.
     
    CutThroatFade, Feb 18, 2018
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  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Groves defeated a better sleeker southpaw in James DeGale than Billy Joe Saunders!
     
    African Cobra, Feb 18, 2018
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  11. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lemieux chased BJS down, Eubank stayed at range, hard to compare the two, different fights really. You'd expect Eubank to do the same as Lemieux but he didn't. Groves threw the jab to reset Eubank's thinking so that he continued to think and stayed still at range. Most of those jabs missed, but their intention wasn't really to land. They were just to reset Eubank's thinking every few seconds.
     
    MeatFeastMan, Feb 18, 2018
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  12. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Great jab but Groves has the advantage with distance and BJS will be jabbing upwards. Also the Groves jab has a lot more authority over it.

    I think BJS probably edges it on skill but I still like Groves in this matchup.

    BJS should stay at 160 and try and clean up there, he has a good shot.
     
    yesihavearm2, Feb 18, 2018
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    BJS 2.0 knocked out DeGale in sparring and he schooled Groves in sparring too. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. :chuck:
     
    Serge, Feb 18, 2018
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  14. Octolony shore

    Octolony shore Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd pick groves just because of the size difference but it would probably be a stinker to watch, both men like to wait for a mistake from their opponent before throwing. It's not a fight I would pay for.
     
    Octolony shore, Feb 18, 2018
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  15. DirtyOldTown

    DirtyOldTown Boxing Addict Full Member

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    50/50 fight.
     
    DirtyOldTown, Feb 18, 2018
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