GSP v SAKURABA....... Who Wins ?

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  1. Dantes

    Dantes ESB Magnate Full Member

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    He had incredible strength and explosiveness. And so does GSP.. it would be an interesting matchup as I don't think Sakuraba could bully GSP as he did other opponents...
     
  2. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Saku is one of my favorite fighters but GSP is too precise with what he does. It would've definitely been a great fight to watch but I think GSP would win UD.
     
  3. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its about the calibre of fighter in the light heavy division. I feel completely rational about my opinion. Only, I feel if anything, it should have been Rashad who had the first shot at the championship.

    Forrest, hard working dude, nothing at all dynamic about him. Rashad at least has wrestling, but then he's one of those guys who either can't, or wont use it in a dynamic way. He would rather use it as a defensive precaution against takedowns, and wing shots.

    The **** is lame, and you know it. That Forrest got the win seemed to be more of a ploy, to get a TUF guy the championship. Its not like Sanchez or Kos, or Stevenson own a belt. I would have no problem with them, regardless of my feelings about their personalities. Some guys are just cocky ******s. I actually LIKE Rashad and Forrest as far as personalities go. But their fighting?
     
  4. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not much pop? GSP is one of the best strikers in MMA history for Christ's sake! SERIOUSLY! With one exception, he has never been outstruck in a fight that I have seen, and he has spectacular KO wins on his resume.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    GSP would give him an ass-beating.
     
  6. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    GSP and Hughes are'nt Belfort though are they.

    Also, Belfort is the most up and down, hot and cold fighter in the game.
     
  7. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    his MMAths logic is just plain stupid.
    Jardine defeated Liddell, Wandy defeated Jardine and Liddell defeated Wandy..
     
  8. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, it is absolute garbage, it is letting sentamentalis
    cloud your judgement.

    BJ has knocked out great fighters time and time again; Din Thomas, Kondo, Sherk, and knocked Hughes stupid leading to the choke. Sakuraba carrying 15 pounds of extra fat does not make him hit harder in any possible way, he has never changed a fight with his power.

    The Gracies had a reputation that Sak turned on his head, but looking at them as fighters and individuals, rather than "Gracie Family members" do you actually consider Royce, Renzo, Royler, and Ryan to be top of the line fighters at the time? Royler and Ryan especially?

    Sakuraba changed the game by being a different type of fighter and used a different looking style. Since then though alot of different people have had a lot of different styles and they have all eventually been assimilated.

    GSP is nothing like the gracies; him vs Sak is going to look pretty similar to Arona vs Sak. No GSP isn't as big as Arona, but he is big enough.

    Not to even mention that we really don't know if we have seen a prime GSP, he has gotten significantly better every time we see him. He looked much better against Hughes each time he fought him, he was better still against Fitch and BJ and will almost certainly be better still against Thiago.
     
  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    1. It wasnt just BEATING the Gracies, it was the WAY he beat them, he beat them all decisevely when nobody else had.

    2. Din Thomas ? Kondo ? Sherk ? Hughes ?
    I admit Hughes is 1 of the best ever AT WELTERWEIGHT, not 185 but seriously, what a party Sakuraba would have vs the rest of that lot.
    Compare those opponents to prime Sakuraba`s opponents, GSP still has a lot to do.
     
  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I actually see it vice versa, I think its GSP that needs to be the bully in fights, the stronger & more explosive guy.... Sakuraba`s game is patience & technique.
    Sak was used to fighting big guys that he could not match strength with, his other skills got the job done.
    Look at GSP just before he became the great fighter he is now but still good in the 1st Hughes fight, vs a guy he couldnt man-handle, he looked lost & was beaten decisevely.
    I think Sak & GSP not being able to man-handle each other will definitely have the more negative effect on George, that leads to mistakes & Sak is the man to punish mistakes.

    Ps. Great highlight video, I seen this on youtube but I dont know how to post links so thanks for that.

    :good
     
  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Yep, definitely.

    Belfort would brutalize Hughes & GSP.
    I know styles make fights but Vitor isnt the only Saku victim that would BADLY trouble GSP & Hughes.

    MMA fans have short memories, Sak in his prime was being called the greatest MMA fighter that ever lived, now 6 or 7 yrs down the line Matt Hughes & GSP would ass-whip him ? :-(

    Give me a ****in break, no contact sport evolves that fast, if it did then Ali & Robinson would be WAY down the p4p lists.

    Use your heads guys.
     
  12. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I said he doesn't have much power, not that his striking isn't good.

    He does have very good technical striking. He is dynamic. But he does not have much power. Most of his TKO wins are GNP wins, with the exception of the Hughes TKO with a head kick and the Hieron TKO. Please show me some more of these spectacular KOs.
     
  13. AJAX

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    When you come down from whatever cloud your on let me know. What's with this obsession with Saku? he was a great fighter but the guy has more loses then I can count on my hands and has been on the wrong end of highlight reel KO's.

    you can talk would of should of could of all you want because it will never really happen so your fantasy matchup and victory over GSP are just words from a dilusional poster...nothing more:dead
     
  14. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Those guys are all proven strikers that BJ knocked out, something Sakuraba never did. Hughes obviously isn't a great strker on his feet, but BJ delivered that on the ground on top of Hughes, when has sakuraba ever changed a fight with a punch of any kind?

    Yes Saku was the first to beat the gracies like that, but immediately after look at their careers. Sak matched up with certain fighters extremely well, mainly pure BJJ guys, which Vitor became AFTER HE BROKE HIS HAND.
     
  15. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why the **** were GSP and Hughes put against Vitor in this thread? Vitor is a middleweight ffs and has spent most of his career at LHW.