GSP vs thiago silva

no its thiago alves not silva

 

Yeah it's Thiago Alves but anyway.....

I think Alves poses the biggest threat to GSP bar BJ Penn. He is an absolute beast on his feet and brings to the table a fighting style that GSP has not seen. If this fight stays standing then GSP is getting knocked out, no questions. Plus Alves' takedown defence is pretty damn good, as seen in the Koscheck fight.

That being said, GSP is a whole different ball game with arguably better takedowns than Koscheck. I think Alves will give GSP problems early with the fight starting standing up and all, but in the end I think GSP would take him down and pound out a decision or TKO him late rounds.

 

Thiago Silva would destroy GSP in 1 round. Thiago Alves on the other hand would be a good fight for GSP. Alves have good striking and has power to knockout GSP. Alves take down defense is very good also so if this fight end up on their feet. I'm picking alves to win by knockout. We all know GSP's chin is not the best after what serra did to him.

 

GSP TKO rd 2.
If Alves think that Fitch has good GnP, wait to see what GSP bring

 

GSP is better on his feet than Alves.
Alves has not seen an elusive fighter with great kicks and good boxing.
If Kos was able to have the better on a couple of exchance, GSP will do better, believe me.
You said it, GSP takedown are better, not because of wrestling, but because of his insane athleticity and explosion.
and I dont disagree with you when you say that Alves has a good takedown defence, but how can you imply that the Kos-Alves proved it? Kos tried NOTHING to bring Alves down in the first 2 round. He tried timidly in the 3rd with no explosion due to the beating his body has suffer because of his shitty game plan

 

GSP has better technical stand up than Alves with a longer reach and better jab, he has better take down defence and vastly better kicking ability, plus his JJ is far better, Alves has a short compact body with big strength it is not enough to beat GSP who is as perfect a 175 'er as you can have now, he can do everything better than any other 175 fighter, BJ Penn on the other hand is not a true 175 pound man.

 

they fight at 170 pounds do you even watch mma.

 

gsp runs through alves he out wrestles him and takes him to the ground. alves also dosnt make the weight so its going to be a non title fight

 

I don't see how GSP is better on the feet than Alves. What because he can throw some fancy spinning kicks and a superman jab? Alves has more power, is more aggressive on his feet and has a more well rounded stand-up game I think.

Your assumption that GSP has better stand-up is based on what exactly? Him beating up wrestlers and JJ players with very little, if any stand up skills. Look at GSP's resume. I'm not saying it isn't great, it is, but there is a distinct lack of Muay Thai/stand up fighters. The only fighter he has faced with good stand-up was BJ Penn and he had to lay on him for two rounds after being soundly beaten standing in the first, to get the win.

And how does the Koscheck fight not prove that Alves has good takedown defence? Thats all Koscheck can do. He tried a few times, couldn't and more or less resigned to the fact that he wasn't going to win that fight. But this is a non factor anyway, as I said before that I think GSP will take Alves down anyway.

 

Alves is a big big welter. He will have the advantage on strength , but GSP is more experienced, versatile and the quicker guy. Though, Alves' style may present problems for GSP, depending on how GSP decides to fight him. I suspect GSP will try to take the fight to the ground instead of risking getting caught.

 

What does it have to do with anything that Alves has better power and more agressive? It doesnt mean he is better than GSP because of that on his feet. I mean, Patrick Cote has fare better power and agressivness than GSP, does it make him a better standing fighter?

I mean i dont understand that logic, just watching Anderson Silva destroying, Franklin, Henderson, Lutter,, Leben ect, none of them are great muaythai fighter like you said, don't mean that Silva aint great on his feet.

Oh, GSP had to lay on BJ Penn to win?That's laughable, and he was getting soundly beaten standingDid you watch the fight? Because that BJ has en alligator skin, dont mean that he was soundly beating GSP on the feet.
GSP landed 41 strikes and BJ landed 38 strikes, BJ connected with a better percentage thats right, hell i'm not even saying GSP won the contest standing vs Penn, but he wasnt being dominated, BJ got lucky with his finger in GSP's eye and his clipping of GSP's nose, its may be dirtty, but its part of the game.

And please, go rewatch the fight between Alves and Kos, KOS didnt try one takedown with explosion from distance prepared by strike, like GSP do.
No matter how good his takedown defence, I don't know a WW who can stop GSP to take him down. And in my opinion, Penn has better takedown defence than Alves.

Kos was landing it 1-2 at will vs Alves.
If Kos can do it easily like that, i'm pretty sure GSP will abuse him on that aspect just to prepare his takedown. Because GSP will not try a stupid thing to do like Kos just to prove he aint borring.

 

It's perfectly normal I think, anyway, GSP's game wont change. He will do his usual stuff if he fight Alves. Setting up his takedown with good strike landed. And just the fact that Alves is gonna fear GSP's takedown, he wont throw his usual powerfull kick.
Again everything can happen, Alves would be the most dangerous fighter that GSP had to fight, less talented than Penn, but more dangerous.
It would be a 70-30 percent fight in my opinion.

 

Perhaps thats your opinion but to me, power has everthing to do with a strong stand-up game. Perhaps not aggressiveness since guys like Lyoto Machida are still very good stand up fighters. Plus I did say Muay Thai/stand up fighters. Franklin, Leben, Irvin are all stand-up fighters, and Silva is called a good stand up fighter because he knocks out almost every fighter that ever came across him.

Saying BJ got lucky with the stand up against GSP is just plain wrong. BJ beat GSP to the punch and countered every leg kick with a jab-right hand. And last time I checked punching someones nose is not dirty. As for the eye poke, I'm not even sure it was one. Looked like a jab to me. But the video i watched of it was **** quality and i didn't get to see a replay. But if it was an eye poke, why didn't GSP say so? If he was legitimately poked no one would have questioned him for taking a quick break to recover. And its not how many punches you land, its how hard and clean they hit, and BJ hit him far harder and cleaner.

As for the Koscheck fight, well, I'll admit that I know **** all about wrestling but a takedown is a takedown and Koscheck couldn't do it. That's good takedown D if you ask me. Although i have said twice before that I think GSP will take Alves down anyway, so we can leave it at that.

And I think you should rewatch that fight, because I did and to say that Koscheck landed the 1-2 at will is just a lie. There is a difference between throwing and landing a punch and most of the 1-2's that Koscheck threw either were slipped by Alves, hit his arms or just plain missed.

Also having rewatched that fight I can say that I think that technically Alves is better standing up aswell. He isn't just some brawler with power. He has great defence standing and he throws good combinations. His jab is good, he uses a good variety of punches and they are accurate. His leg kicks and knees are brutal to boot. He is better standing than GSP. But like I said before I think GSP will win by taking him down and pounding on him.

 

I did rewatch the fight this morning just to be sure of what i've remembered and i'm not lying. Kos was able to land a lot with his 1-2, and they did connect, maybe not clean and flush everytime, but that dont matter with that size of glove.

For the others points, well, that's just another point of view in a different angle. In fact we agree on the same thing that GSP will beat Alves, but not on particular detail!:good