Guess What? On the Lomachenko Bandwagon more than ever!

Styles makes fights. Loma really needs to learn to fight pro though... Holy ****

 

I guess your ******* is still sore. Tell your tranny mother to take it easy next time. Go sit on an ice pack and **** off..

 

...Why is no one talking about Naoya Inoue?

 

Good fighter, good chin, very strong body, strong enough to take many illegal blows and then come back and almost have Salido out. If not for the idiot referee Cole, he would have still won the fight, but he is too nice. He could file a protest, anyone else would have..........he needs to hire a pro trainer, keep his father in the corner. He will become a champion..........

 

The weight is not at all a cop out. An 11 lb advantage is huge at featherweight. This is why they have so many weight classes at the lower weights, divided by only a few pounds.

I think Loma has huge potential, but stylistically, this was the worst possible fight one could make for a green pro, amongst some of the worst possible circumstances (bad ref, big weight disadvantage, etc). Also, the training regimen between pro and amatuer is very different. It takes a while to convert your body system from one to the other. This is why they typically start with 4 round fights and work up slowly, because physiologically it takes a while. Also, I was under the impression he was changing to a pro trainer, but he's still with his father, who I believe is strictly an amatuer trainer, and Loma is probably not training optimally for the pros.

He was a fool to not have a weight cap in the contract should his opponent not make weight. He was a fool not to point out the low blows to Cole after round 2. He was a fool not to get a pro trainer. The loss is 100% on Loma and his team. Whether the foolishness was born of arrogance, ignorance, or stupidity, who knows, but as a result making history escaped them.

 

I'm not surprised, Texas ruins fights. I was surprised that chavez jr got a decision.

 

That's not correct. To shed almost 3 pounds of dehydrated weight, Salido would have had to lose 7 or so pounds hydrated. You are wrong.

 

that's fair enough. he DOES have all the physical gifts in the world. but if he doesn't have the mind of a fighter, then i'm afraid to say, those gifts will go to waste.

 

A lot of people said the same thing after the first Salido/JuanMa Lopez fight.

 

Loma is definitely classy and definitely has great potential.

His fans here act as if being dirty in boxing is something new. Salido isn't even that clever with his tactics. You get the B-hops and Floyd type of subliminal dirty tactics and Loma leaves a battered man, mentally.

That is why you need experience in this game. There is soo much more going on when fighting pro, than just actual boxing.

Too many intangibles that are only learned by having professional ring experience.

And if you fail to recognize that, than you don't know **** about boxing.

That is what Roger refers to when he says his famous phrase. People think that by knowing your 1/2s, uppercuts, left hook and ****, you are an expert trainer.

Nope! Loma proved it last night

 

Yep. Loma and his team weren't equipped to deal with everything that came at them. Hopefully they learned a lot.

 

Salido is 33 dude. He struggled to make 128.5 im sure. Lets say he made 126 on the nose, are you telling me Salido wouldn't have ballooned back up in weight? Again, maybe not 19lbs, maybe 15lbs, whatever, he still would have had a weight advantage, which for about the 10th time was my initial and only point.

 

I'm not arguing his age or his struggles to make weight. Those are red herrings. You said that had he made weight at 126 that he would have gained 17lbs instead of 19lbs, and I said you're simply wrong in you assertion that 2.5lbs of dehydrated weight equals 2.5 lbs or even 4 lbs of hydrated weight. Had he made 126 dehydrated to the max, he would have been around 6-8 pounds lighter fully hydrated. Those last 2.5lbs are extremely hard to get off and equate to around three times as much fully hydrated weight. It basically would have put them around 4 pounds apart, instead of 11. Salido probably would have still won since Loma couldn't deal with Salido's style (a style you don't see in the amatuers) and the huge number of hip shots and lowblows Loma ate, along with some amatuer-to-pro stamina issues, but maybe not. He might have squeaked out a draw with a more even weight.

Anyway, like I said before, this loss was 100% on Loma and his team. This was the wrong opponent, under the wrong circumstances, with the wrong team.

 

There are at least 5 Featherweights right now I would easily pick over 33 year old 2014 Orlando Salido. Styles make fights, but in general, that means I don't think he is a top 5 H2H fighter in the division. That isn't good for Lomachenko, who couldn't handle him.

 

Void would have raised pure Hell if that had happened to him. He would have filed a protest ASAP!

It does not surprise me at all the European haters claiming that hitting a fighter on the legs, hips, balls, etc., it fine, not to mention hitting on the break many times. If another referee had done the refereeing, Lomachenko would have won the fight. Even with the worst referee in boxing Laurence Cole, Lomachenko still got a split decision. I find it incredible that Lomachenko could stand all those low blows, hitting on the break, then come back and almost knock Salido out. Laurence Cole is a disgrace...............no fighter should ever allow Cole to referee his fights. Cole was not just an idiot, appeared to be on the take, Cole has been this way for years................and his father's connections?