Guess who?

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  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Guess who this fighter is training on ice.


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    First person to awnser correctly gets put into a time capsule and wins two ringside seats for Ali v Frazier I. You will stay two nights in 5 star accommodation just a short walk away from Madison Square Garden. All expenses paid, plus $2000 spending money.
     
  2. mcvey

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    Length of leg ,maybe a heavy Ali?
     
  3. mcvey

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    At the time of the FOTC a travel company were doing a package 5 nights in New york ,with a decent seat,price £115.Its one of my lasting regrets that I didnt go,although that was probably a months wages to me then.
     
  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Wrong.
     
  5. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Looks like Bob Foster to me. I know this probably isn't correct. :think
     
  6. Executioner

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  7. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler. In Provincetown, MA.
     
  8. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'll second Hagler.
     
  9. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Correct. Marvin Hagler training on ice. Feburary, 1983.

    You have just won a pair of tickets for Ali v Frazier "Fight of the Century". You shall go into a time capsule.
     
  10. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He used to go to what he called "jail" --which was up in Provincetown, MA at the furthest tip of Cape Cod. Provincetown was known then and is known now as a homosexual Mecca during the summer months but during the winter it is a barren wasteland. There are about 100 kids in the high school there. The weather in the winter gets pretty severe up there -high winds, colder temps, etc.

    He would seclude himself up there with the Petronellis and a few sparring partners and that's it -no wife, no kids. And he would run 15 miles.

    That isn't ice by the way, it is a parking lot. Hagler would actually run on the beach -which with the sand and the snow is hell to run on. Try 15 miles with those conditions, a large part of it backwards. The beach is probably right there just out of view. I suspect that he ran in the parking lot for a photo op.
     
  11. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Its not sheets of ice on top of a lake. But the road or ground he's running on is icey, hence running on 'ice'. I know what you mean.

    Hagler was an obsessive animal. And his training regiment consisted of what you mentioned, plus relaxing himself late evening on his porch staring out into the sea. He also liked to watch fight films when relaxation was on the menu. But it was pretty much as you said -no wife, no kids.

    Hagler wasn't a man you wanted to be around during the weeks leading up to a fight. 'moody' to say the least.

    Every Christmas he would take out his belts and lay them underneath the tree, say a prayer, then put them away again. An obsessive and strange ritual.
     
  12. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes indeed. Hagler was a brooder anyway who purposefully punished himself in camp and then blamed his opponent for every slight ever committed against him in his life. Combine that with his unusual skill set and stylistical difficulties and you have an awfully difficult man to beat. These factors combine to put him over Monzon, Greb, and Robinson in head to heads in my opinion.
     
  13. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    High praise indeed. Many others seem to opt for Monzon over Hagler.
     
  14. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler is tops in the middles for you? High praise Stonehands. I like Robinson over Hagler...Greb? who knows?...Hagler and Monzon is a tough hypothetical...both have their strengths, but I lean slightly towards Monzon (barely)
    Addendum: Great photos Robbi.
     
  15. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, great photos.

    I favor Hagler but the other 3 giants of the MW are right there. So it is a slight edge. I don't think that ESB has ever really acknowledged the complexity of his style. Hagler gets credit for his chin, his committment, his skills, and his conditioning, but I think that it is this complexity of his style that sets him apart. Duran, with all his experience and old school training at the hands of Arcel and Brown was admittedely confused by Hagler.

    Hagler is a converted southpaw who not only varied his shots and the angles of the shots, and the power of the shots and the speed of the shots, but he could also transition between stances during combinations. I remember Tony Sibson getting nailed with a few unusual combinations. Hagler strikes me as a total package kind of fighter -where wasn't he adept?