Guillermo "El Chacal" Rigondeaux to make his return in 2018

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Counter punchers can be cool to watch if they dont clinch and they have some competence at taking the lead.

    If you get two guys who are inept or unable to take the lead its annoying. You can have a high level fight like JMM and Norwood and then they just stare at each other like idiots. And time to snooze. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

    At least with a brawler you may not see the highest level of technique. But at least we actually see a fight occur. Which is the point. I want punches to be thrown and o want somebody to get hurt.
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    thats what im talking about, who said anything about aura?
    since his boring non eventful fight vs francisco in 2015, rigo has fought 3 rds before coming in and quitting vs loma. 3 rds that said nothing about how he would fare against the top guys RIGHT NOW. the aura is created by the guys who think that the rigo who beat francisco is going to come in and discourage guys who have seen him quit and who are 3 years more experienced at top level. the guy is a 38yo bantam ffs.
     
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  3. LeftRightDownThePipe

    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    You don’t even know what alternative facts means. Lol :lol: You see... that’s what YOU are doing. :lol:

    I told you to bring us proof of Loma’s supposed 15-20lbs fight night weight advantage. I also told you to provide clips of the fight that shows Loma using this weight advantage to defeat Rigo. Where are they dumb dumb?? :D

    We’re waiting. Then after you send this (You won’t. They don’t exist) I will share the clips of Loma using nothing but skills and speed along with a higher ring IQ that made your boy Rigo say “I don’t want anymore of this” even though he trolled on Twitter for three years to get the fight and made it pretty much impossible to come to an agreement for a 126 fight. I can also post clips of all the fouls Rigo tried in the fight as well.


    Ok, proof of Loma’s 15-20lbs advantage with video examples of Loma using that weight in the fight. Annnnd go...
     
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  4. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  5. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    To be honest that's the way your post came across.
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    There was no aura guys. Rigo was career suicide. Because he basically ensured you a boring fight. And you could lose a boring decision.

    Its not like OMG this guy is going to tear my head off.

    Nobody wants a rep as a boring fighter.
     
  7. FrankinDallas

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    That might be Fury's plan....look pedestrian against D level competition then get a big payday vs Wilder.

    Then again....thats probably way beyond Fury's mentality .
     
  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Come off it already. The guy has done nothing, but beat domestic Japanese. And a blown up Flyweight.

    Plus hes 38 has barely fought in years. And in his last fight quit with all his faculties in order. And did not land 1 power punch the entire fight that wasnt partially blocked.
     
  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i dont doubt it. i often condense a theory too much, where steps and data that is obvious to me, because its been worked out, is confusing to the reader.
     
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  10. rhin0z>

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    Providing the blind visual evidence is futile. Explaining weight classes to deaf ears is illogical. youre on your own. get your alternative facts and figure it out. im done here.
     
  11. BoboFett

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    Will he be fighting at 122 or 126?
    They might test his testicular fortitude with Mares.
     
  12. Anne-Marie

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    This is but also isn't technically correct.

    Frampton wasn't willing to fight him at the 20% the WBA was telling him too.

    The back story is this. When the Quigg and Frampton fight was made Quigg was WBA regular champ, Rigo full champ and Frampton IBF. Frampton was told unless he could secure a Unification he would have to fight the mandatory at the time in Shingo Wake. However, the IBF also said they will not view a fight with a secondary champ as a unification. Framptons team did approach Rigo but he had linked up with Roc Nation by that point and Frampton was still with Haymon. Roc Nation, because of some lawsuit to do with Beyonce from years back would not do business with Haymon. Thus the WBA made Quigg full champ so that fight could be made as a unification to bypass the IBF rule and obviously the WBA could make some decent money from a big money fight from that division. To compensate Rigondeaux was told he would be mandatory and the winner would have fight him in an 80/20 split in the Cubans favor within 90 days (even though the IBF had also told the winner to do the same with Wake).

    After Frampton won, enquires was once again made to team Rigo to make a deal, but they advised they would wait for purse bids and only fight at the WBAs %s. Rigondeauxs lot surely knew a big ticket seller, who has just had a big fight on Sky PPV with 2 belts wouldn't think 20% was worthwhile and go elsewhere rather than against a guy who could fit all his fans paying fans in a phone box and had next to nobody promoting him, in a weight he'd been really struggling to make and if he did opt to stay at the weight he'd have to vacate his other belt. So technically from that point of view, you could say that Rigo had priced himself out - who at that stage of his career was being massively overpaid by Roc Nation to fight bums anyway wae probably less interested in tough fights than Frampton (E. G. He turned down Jamie McDonnell on the GGG/Brook undercard, designed to expose him to the Sky audience to fight Scott Quigg down the line, to instead fight Jazza Dickens on BoxNation)

    The idea that Rigondeaux is badly avoided is somewhat flawed when you consider how badly he's handle his own career doing stuff like turning down chances like the McDonnell one, pretending he didn't know he needed a VISA to fight overseas, doing a dirty protest with his performance when he gets on undercard of big shows, pricing himself out of fights, not learning a lick of English, singing with the promoter with an awful relationship with Haymon, Hearn and Arum who had all the big name fighters around that division. To much pointing goes at the likes of Frampton and Santa Cruz and not enough at Rigo himself
     
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  13. J Jones

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    Leo Santa Snooze won’t even mention his name.