Guillermo Jones - Denis Lebedev - fight of the year!!

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  1. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed.

    No way Jones DID make 200 lbs. I'd guess he was 215 - 220. Did they even do a pre-fight weight check?
     
  2. patscorpio

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    amazing fight:shock::shock::shock::shock:...gotdamn!!!
     
  3. WildStyle

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    It really wasn't that great. Lebedev landed the harder, better shots all throughout the fight. Jones was slow, plodding. It wasn't a particularly skilled affair. And the stoppage was quite odd. Lebedev beat the count, but the ref was counting incorrectly. It was kind of anti-climactic. It was a good fight, but definitely not FOTY.
     
  4. GoldenArms

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    It was a pretty good fight but not FOTY material. I had the feeling while watching the fight that Jones would eventually get him out of there. I just couldn't see Lebedev making it to the final bell, he wasn't hurting Jones, had his face broke, and was fighting on the back foot the whole time and that's just not what he does best. If they rematch, Jones whoops him again.
     
  5. dwighttsharpe

    dwighttsharpe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ???

    WTH? Are you saying he did not make weight at the weigh in? If he made weight, wth does that other shyte matter?
     
  6. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Uh.... what?

    You DO realize that the weigh-in is held 24 hrs prior to the fight, don't you?
     
  7. john doe

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    i just watched the jones/lebedev fight....and i did not see the same as most of you...


    i seen a jones who had a slow jab and no gas in the tank, but one hell of an iron chin, lebedevs power didnt even phase him, he just kept patient and kept the pressure on and aimed for that eye all night...

    if you look at lebedevs previous fights, that eye has gotten swollen a few times before but nevr as bad, but those fights were over early....my opinion of jones in this fight is he looked like a bigger andrade with an iron chin and good game plan...

    nothing special of a fight other than the eye that makes lebedev look like an alien....imo fight shoud have been stopped much earlier for the eye alone
     
  8. john doe

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    i agree 100%
     
  9. Rock0052

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    I'd be interested to see if they did or not. If so, I missed it.

    I want to see what Jones would look like next to Povetkin. I know Lebedev's a smaller CW so that may have made it look a little more distorted, but it looked to me like the two would've been close to the same size (Jones perhaps a couple inches taller and a couple pounds lighter). At any rate, he looked a full division bigger than Lebedev in the ring.

    It's really crazy he was able to boil down from being the size of an average HW and still maintain the punch resistance he did. Lebedev puts guys to sleep with a handful of the shots he was hitting Jones with, and Guillermo ate them like they were candy.
     
  10. macp1

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    Lebedev was ahead on all 3 cards?
     
  11. Grecorussian

    Grecorussian Active Member Full Member

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    Any news on Lebedev's eye?
    He went to the hospital
     
  12. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haven't seen in yet sadly. Was it really better than Bradley's latest fight against that Eastern Euro?
     
  13. Outlaw

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    definitely more dramatic and especially bloody!
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Couple thoughts...

    Great fight, one of the best of the year so far.

    Jones landed tons of body shots all night whereas Lebedev didn't land one til round 7.

    The "compubox" they have in Russia is amazingly bad.

    The doctor or corner should have stopped the fight sometime around round 6-7.

    Guillermo Jones did look a class above Denis Lebedev.

    Lebedev did have a solid jab, but his only other effective punches really were when he'd throw combos centered around a repeated uppercut.

    Jones was great at finding range and is extremely durable to the point where he can do that with great affect.

    Yes, this fight sort of shows a lot of Lebedev's shortcomings which I've been talking about for a couple years. He was good, never great or a H2H demon like some made him out to be.
     
  15. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was actually really similar, in lots of ways. - Especially the physical appearence of one foghter at the end.



    FWIW, I disagree pretty strongly with Nonito on this one: While the stoppage was fair, Lebedev was outboxing Jones, and I had him way ahead. He was faster, and threw from more angles that the one-dimensional Jones.

    Jones didn't suck, it's true he was very good at landing from range and he put massive pressure on Lebedev, but he couldn't put enough shots together to either win on points nor KO him. It seemed like Jones was gassing out in the second half of every round. (age and a few extra pounds will do that.)

    Lebedev was tough as nails, and did not quit. - And while Jones made him suffer, Lebedev absolutely landed more shots, and they weren't pitty-pat jabs.

    I think if it weren't for his horrible eye condition, folks would have seen the fight differently.
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    Bottom line: Jones is too old to be a factor in the CW division, though I guess he'll give us a few more good fights before he retires.
    - and Lebedev is better than folks are now saying. I'd love to see him fight Chambers or Hernandez, assuming he ever fights again.