~ Guillermo RIGONDEAUX to fight on the Berto-Quintana card! ~

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  1. Cubanborn87

    Cubanborn87 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i dont doubt that he is getting good fights but if you want to be world class and want to make a lot of money which is important for guys that have basically been making 20 dollars a month for their whole life they gotta cross the ocean , they can only do so much in europe and acosta is getting affected that division in europe is very weak, he needs to fight better oponents and get world recognition. and about rigo of course he was he didnt have a lawyer with him when he signed the contract, believe me if you asked me when i came out of cuba what a contract was i wouldn't have had a clue of what that was, so of course in a way he was taken advantage of here is a poor guy no legal representation no idea how a contract works and you are saying he def. knew what he was signing. i bet you th contract was even in english. is not hyde's fault but if the poor guy wants to fight in the us leave him alone dont take him out of his lil confort zone and take him all the way to the middle of europe
     
  2. Cubanborn87

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    i never said he wasnt fighting quality guys over there what i aid is this guy is basically fighting in basements with like 6 people in the crowd come on man he deserves better than that. just look at lara which i think is talented just like garcia. he has the same amount of fights he's been on national tv twice been on the undercard of the fight of the year and it was televised and now he will fight on national tv this friday again. he has fought in nothing but arenas and stadiums , garcia on the other hand he is fighting in places that look like the restaurant where i go to eat breakfast not to say it seems like the video was shot by one of his trainers or something , it was a homemade clip
     
  3. TommyV

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    They are still learning the trade. They won't stay over in Ireland forever, they'll go to America eventually. To say they can only go so far in Europe is a stupid statement aswell. Wladimir Klitschko fights primarily out of German alone and he's done pretty well, don't you agree? That's only one example. Plenty of fighters don't necessarily fight in the US frequently who have had great careers.
     
  4. Cubanborn87

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    yes in the heavyweight division i do agree just because the heavyweights in america are a complete joke , so in that case there would be no reason to come over to the us but for other divisions i think is clear that america is where's at. hatton's biggest fights for his career were all in america or at least most of them.

    no about they coming to america i cannot comment because im not sure but i hard that their promoter has no intention in bringing them over which doenst make sense to me, but dont quoe me i heard this from someone
     
  5. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    Yeah I noticed too that he seems to be fighting in restaurants with about 50 people in attendance:think:roll:
     
  6. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad rotates between MSG and Germany frequently. He hasn't returned to MSG because the return from the bout with Iggy was so terrible that there's a good chance his draw value was killed there. Believe me if Wlad could come back to MSG he would.

    As per the idea of coming to America or what not, It's really all relatively moot. If he progresses the way we figure, he'll be here. Just gotta be patient.

    If you want to follow his career then it might be a bit harder...but we'll have to make do with what we get.
     
  7. Paddy

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    LOL Ive seen mike perez fighting infront of a few thousand people....

    The difference is Lara isint being tested yet and Garcia is


    thats the difference mate! Gary looks after his lads like theyre his sons can the same be said of ouner???

    I wasnt at the fight in newcastle.

    However i was at his fight in the 5 star citywest hotel hardly a basement....

    Same can be said for the two shows at the silver springs hotel in cork.
     
  8. Paddy

    Paddy ESB Founders Club Full Member

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    christ man I have said this SEVERAL times they were to be going to america by the end of the year and then Perez injured his shoulder.

    Gary isint theyre promoter hes theyre manager however he does put on shows so his guys can fight the people he wants them to fight.

    its a bit stupid to think that gary would keep them in ireland...

    theyre over here so they dont have ppl licking theyre arse all the day,

    i think its rather amusing that you have a chip on your shoulder over this:D

    all your arguments are just bull****

    "theyre fighting in basements"

    "they wont be coming to america"

    "Rigondeaux was taken advantage of"

    the fact is the three young guns are VERY happy about fighting out of Ireland.

    And were pleased to have them here
     
  9. Paddy

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    I know gary well these guys will be in america next year maybe sooner....
     
  10. lucatoni08

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    he's had like 4 fights, do you want him to be the main event at MSG at this stage or something?? And they're not restaurants they're 5 star hotels with considerably more than 50 people in attendance. The main thing is he's fighting tough opposition!!
     
  11. boxeo#1

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    Did I say that?:roll:
     
  12. Cubanborn87

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    i do agree with that garcia is getting much better competition than lara so far no question about that.
     
  13. Gladiador

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    I think Cubanborn87 said it all... Not that Hyde isn't doing a good job, I like what he's doing with his Cubans because they are very young still and he is planning to bring them to USA. But if Rigo doesn't fight this friday, my opinion of him will dramatically change. Honestly, just let Rigo have his effin pro debut. If Hyde is right and Rigo did sign with him before, Oner will be forced by the court to compensate Hyde $$$ for that pro debut without Hyde's conscent. If this shiet keeps going you'll just ruin Rigondeaux career for real... The dude should be fighting every two week now for the next year.
     
  14. Cubanborn87

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    listen dude read what i said first and then comment, first i never said they were not coming to america, i said someone told me that but dont quote me lol hellloo......... but i tell you what the guy that told me this is like the expert insider when it comes to all the cuban boxers this guy tells me everything before anyone even knows specially the ones in the us not so much about the irsih ones that's why i even paid attention. but again when i heard this it made no sense to me why they would do this specially since they are supposed to be good but thanks for clearing it

    about the basements im just talking about one garcia fight i saw which was his last one so comparing him to the promotion lara is getting you know thins dont look that good i never said he was going to fight in those places his whole life

    and about rigo yeah of course, every one saying rigo signed the contract he knew what he was doing that guy came from cuba he probably never even seen a contract his whole life so dont tell me he knew what he was doing, remember people that live in cuba when they first get out they dont know **** about how the real world works. i just saw an interview on some spanish channel with him if you look at his eyes and they way he talks, he is such a humble guy and you can hear on his voice the pain he has gone through so i feel really bad for him that's why i dont want people to look at him as just a piece of business and just let the poor guy fight. he will probably never see his family again let the poor guy fight!!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. Gladiador

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    W/e hater. :good