Gutsy, limited fighters?

Hughes was a good call he was very limited and the first few rounds he looked like a slow club fighter but he came through against some talented fighters, he could punch a little.

Mancini not limited he had skill, Ali had very good boxing skills in his prime slowed down at JW but still found a way to win. From what i remember Gerald hayes didnnt seem limited he had good boxing skill right?

 

My god atsch:-( No way Hector was slick,fast and had some excellent boxing skills believe me i should know ive seen him in the gym many times and he was highly skilled. A limited fighter doesnt win a silver medal in the olympics. Man this was a horrible call he had some excellent footwork too. Sammy Fuentes when he was coming up was very talented and fast seemed to slow down and rely on his power after losing to the more experienced Frankie Warren. Fuentes was a huge talent as a prospect you are forgiven on this since you probably only saw the faded later version who relied on brawling and his power. Mayorga actually has some natural ability he is just awkward and unrefined which makes you think hes limited besides as i said before if you have power thats not limited. Oliviera had some pretty fast hands. Only one you are spot on about is Randy Cobb severly limited although found a way to win. Even Hipp had some decent skills.

Hector Lopezatschatschatsch Ridiculous!!!

 

Hector was a Volume puncher with serious skills...

 

Good pick, though I was excpecting to hear you say Brian Mitchell!

 

Gene Fullmer

 

We seem to be debating the limits of "limited", aren't we?

I thought Bazooka Limon was "limited" in his lack of immediately recognizable physical athletic talent and his accomplishments usually coming from imposing his sheer will against faster, sleeker, sometimes stronger opponents.

I just watched Hector Lopez against Tsyzu and the differences in their respective physiques was pretty distinct and a casual observer would've wondered how Hector stayed competitive with him if he didn't know their history.

Myself, the first guy to come to my mind was Tom "Roughhouse" Fischer.- 70's Dayton Heavyweight that fought some main events against big names and made it on TV a few times.

 

I don't think Jerry Quarry qualifies. He was very talented and extremely skilled by HW standards. People overlook this because he let his "Irish" get the best of him on certain occasions but noone can deny his ability.

 

Gene Fullmer...limited?

 

I like Fullmer alot, but yes, I would classify as him as someone who excelled in spite of his limitations!

Here is a link:

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=18564&more=1

And a brief comment from the article:

Nobody befuddled us more back in the fifties and sixties than Gene Fullmer, the tough and bruising battler from West Jordan, Utah. It was as if Gene had watched Rocky Marciano and set his mind on becoming even more awkward, ungainly and downright contrary than Rocky.

In his early days as an unbeaten middleweight, Gene’s auditions would make even the worldliest boxing people wince and reel in shock. They didn’t come any worldlier than Teddy Brenner, who was the matchmaker at the Eastern Parkway Arena in Brooklyn when he got his first look at Gene in 1954.

Brenner visibly sagged as he watched Fullmer lumbering through his workout with a crudity and a lack of grace that would become all too familiar in the years to follow. To those who witnessed the session, Teddy’s horrified expression was something to behold.

Gene Fullmer was 24-0 as a pro at the time with an impressive 19 knockouts on his slate. How could he possibly look so bad? His most threatening opponents seemed to be his own feet. Brenner, fearing that Gene might trip over his plates and break his neck, implored Fullmer’s manager Marv Jenson to take the kid back to the comparatively gentle environs of Utah for his own safety.

What had Teddy Brenner seen that had so dismayed him? He had seen a man who couldn’t box or punch, whose awkward style would leave the average boxing fan stone cold. He saw a fighter who, for all his impossible awkwardness, could still be hit repeatedly with disturbing ease. Teddy kept watching and blinking, looking for that certain something that he might be missing. He couldn’t find it.

Brenner’s harsh verdict shocked Marv Jenson but didn’t deter him. Marv had believed in his man Fullmer ever since the man was a raw and enthusiastic young boy. At eight years of age, Gene was taken along to the West Jordan Athletic Club by his father, Tuff, who asked Jenson to teach the lad boxing.

Jenson saw at once what nobody else did. “He had it,” said Marv. “I knew it the minute I tried him out. He had three things I could work on. Strength, a good mind and fast reflexes. I took advantage of those three things.”

 

Hmmm...:think

 

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