Guys, here are some quick facts on Bute-Andrade!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by NALLEGE, Oct 25, 2008.


  1. waldoesj

    waldoesj Active Member Full Member

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    Guys lets be realistic Andrade was at the right spot and the ref over reacted to give a break to Bute to beat the count. If you think what happened was the right call watch the last seconds of the Mayorga and Mosley fight. Mosley was able to get a ko because Mayorga beat the 9 count (wich it was a real 9 secs count).
     
  2. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    I'm am 100% sure there was a definite deal in place to protect Bute. The ref was protecting Bute the whole damn night, and saving him from the KO was the biggest miscarriage of his authority lasy night, not the only one.

    As for Bute supposedly dominating the whole fight, BS, I had Bute up two rounds on Andrade going into the 12, actually watching the fight it would have been closer if not for the bogus KD called for Bute.

    Its over now, but this fight makes me sick to my stomache.
     
  3. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yeah,he was protecting him when Andrade elbowed him,when he headbutted him twice,once in the final flurry,or when Andrade thrown Bute into the turnbuckle.As of now you are the first to say Bute wasn't dominating the fight up to the 12th so you kinda lost you'r respect.And the bogus KD was from a punch so it was legal.
     
  4. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    No Bute fanboy here, haven't even followed the man's career. I'm just saying what happened WAS controversial and you can't be 100% sure of anything without actual proof.

    Forget about the ref's count. Make the count yourself, you'll see Bute got up at about 8 or 9. Even if you count fast he is up between 9 and 10. He was obviously out on his feet when he got up, but it is the ref's decision to stop it or not.

    Imo it would be MORE controversial if the ref had stopped it, simply because there was NO time remaining, and Bute was up before the count of 10. It would be correct to rule it a TKO even with Bute on his feet only if there was more time in the round, or if there was another round left. TKOs are ruled when a fighter is UNABLE to continue fighting, but in this case all Bute had to to do was get up. There was no more fighting to do, as the bout was finished!

    All I'm saying is that it was the ref's decision to stop it or not and I respect his decision. That said, a rematch is definitely needed.
     
  5. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Andrade did elbow him, why? That is right excessive clinching that the ref allowed to go on since round 4. Head butting, you mean the same head butting that Bute was doing in his iniated clinches? I love how the headbutt didn't get called until Andrade landed a nice hook on Bute and was about to go to work. Andrade threw Bute into the turnbuckle to get the guy off of him, yet still Bute got no warning, how about no warning for Bute when TWICE he tried to PICK UP ANDRADE BY THE ****ING LEG AND THROW HIM OVER. How about the SHOULDER CHARGE the ref ruled a knockdown, you are a fool if you think pushing a man is actually supposed to be scored a KD.

    I'm pretty sure you do not want to go this route. The ref was openly biased against Andrade and there is no way you can deny that and maintain your crediblity, while trying to question mine.

    As for my scorecard, a lot of the rounds in my opinion went to Andrade for his consistant body work early on and his slipping of a lot of Bute's punches. A lot of the announcers and crowds were yelling when Andrade would throw a flurry and land only 1 or 2 punches.
     
  6. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    This is my last one to you.You are biased.The ref ****ed it both ways till the end when he robbed Andrade.Bute was clearly ahead.Enough
     
  7. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    You must think I'm a Bute fan don't you, you degenerate. Guys, you can talk all the "the ref counted six twice, and this that and the other, but count to 10 yourself like the Showtime announcers did, and you can see Bute clearly gets up before 10. Now the argument is would the ref think he was fit to continue had he not had to turn around to talk to Andrade. It becomes a judgement call.
     
  8. majorer

    majorer Member Full Member

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    yes and he was up at eleven not nine
     
  9. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Exactly...lol.
     
  10. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Stop lying lol...