Guys, in all honesty -- Is Danny Jacobs finished at the top level or as a fighter

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No he was lucky one judge had it a draw and another judge scored it for him 7-5. Many of those "7" rounds GGG "won" were debatable. You say the range is from 9-3 to 7-5 GGG, really the range is more like 7-5 GGG to 8-4 Canelo. You need to understand that many fans (and two of the judges) gave GGG many rounds that Canelo outperformed him in simply bcause GGG was throwing more punches. When we go through it round by round, it's abundantly clear that that best GGG could possibly do is 7-5. I'm not talking about media cards or fan boy cards, again 7-5 GGG turns into 8-4 GGG or 9-3 GGG by giving him rounds he didn't deserve. Rounds that GGG tried really hard but was still being outboxed and out manuvered. The Byrd card caused people to get carried away in the ther direction to protest her card by giving GGG more rounds.

 

9-3, to 7-5 for GGG. Zero chance of a draw.

 

Which rounds get you that score? 1-4 & 10-12 were Canelo rounds. Some of those you could argue for GGG, but if you're honest you know Canelo outperformed him in those rounds. 5 and 6 were close and could go either way. Round 7 was GGG's best roudns, Round 8 and 9 closer than 7, Canelo outworked but landed the best single shot.

 

I gave Canelo rounds 2,3, and 12. Round one was either for GGG or even.

 

You said between 9-3 GGG and 7-5 GGG. Where's your 2 "other" possible Canelo rounds to make it 7-5?

Round 1 could be scored either way, don't gatekeep and say it was only GGG or even. That's a Canelo round, there's nothng unreasonable about giving Round 1 to Canelo.

Then we have 10 and 11. Be honest, those two rounds were highly competitive and extremely close. Both could be scored for Canelo. Then we have rounds 4-6, each of those rounds was highly competitive and extremely close.

To give GGG rounds 1, 4, 5, 6, 10 and 11, you're compensating for GGG by giving him any remotely close round you can find just for being competitive or throwing more punches. I gave GGG round 5 for him landing some decent shots in the last minute. He didn't land anything of note in rounds 1-4 or in round 5 before the final minute. I honestly felt bad for GGG after losing the first 4 rounds, I gave him that 5th just for finally doing something in the final minute. But start to finish that really should be a Canelo round too. Round 6 was another good round for Canelo.

You live in a fantasy thinking GGG legitimately won any of those rounds. Now some people gave GGG round 4, if you give him a close round like that then you gotta split other close rounds like 5 or 6 or you're showing bias and not producing an accurate score. Round 4-6 were too close and hard to score to give either guy each of those rounds. This concept of spitting close, hard to score rounds seems to be lost on you.

So again, round 1, could go either way due to low output, feel out round, but really a Canelo round if you factor in ring generalship and defense with neither guy landing much. Clearly round 1 *wasn't* effective aggression from GGG due to neither guy landing much, so you'd have to explain your justification for giving GGG round 1 with Canelo landing the better cleaner shots that did land plus better defense and better ring generalship.

Round 4, arguable for GGG, but if you're honest that's a Canelo round. 5 and 6 could go either way, rounds 4-6 were definitely not clear GGG rounds as you pretend they were. 7-9 were more "clear" GGG rounds than 4-6, can you acknowledge this? Rounds 4-6 were more debatable, but GGG was rocked with one big shot in round 7, 8 and 9. Still, giving GGG rounds 7-9 is fine by me due to Canelo being significantly outworked, unlike in rounds 4-6, but you could give Canelo round 8 or 9 for the single shot and defending better against the jab than he did in Round 7.

And 10 and 11, again good Canelo rounds, but competitive. GGG's *comeback* after the big first minute by Canelo in Round 10 was not better than what Canelo landed in the first minute. You know this, I know this, stop pretending. Round 11 decent round for GGG but Canelo edged it.

 

I like you, but when it comes to this fight you seem quite off. The way i score a fight is either one guy wins a round or if is too close to call i call it even, that way one guy don't win rounds that are too close to call and unreservedly win the fight. The fight was relatively easy to score. Rounds 10 and 11 were GGG rounds, Canelo and GGG were trading in the beginning of round 10, Canelo had the edge but not by that much, then GGG dominated the next two minutes leaving Canelo's flurry in the dust. Round 11 was clearly GGG.

 

It was more than a flurry in the beginning of the 10th. It was a sustained attack on GGG, probably the most offense anyone ever had on GGG in a single minute in his entire career. GGG didn't do much in the final 2 minutes besides chase Canelo and miss. You have a very fuzzy memory of that round. Canelo went into full outboxing and evade mode after the first minute, frustrating GGG with his footspeed and elusiveness and exposing the difference of ring IQ between he and GGG.

And you didn't answer the question. You said anything between 9-3 GGG and 7-5 GGG is OK with you, and I asked what 5 rounds do you consider possible Canelo rounds? You said you gave Canelo round 2, 3 and 12. Those and what other 2 rounds?