Guys, you have your views on Povetkin all wrong.

Yes, I have no problem with people saying Povetkin is not ready for Wlad yet, but saying he's not ready for the Chagaev/Ibragimov level right now is ridiculous. Who have these guys fought to be ready for Povetkin is a better thing to think about. Nobody. And beating Ruiz/Virchis in close fights or drawing with Ray Austin and having a tough fight against Friday Ahunanya (who Povetkin outclassed easily at an earlier stage of his career) is even less impressive than having trouble early on against Eddie Chambers.

 

Povetkin fights somewhat amteurish despite being a highly decorated amatuer fighter. Yeah he has a nice variety of punches, but he leaves himself open when he tries to throw those volume amount of punches, thats both amatuerish and sloppy. Chambers would of beaten Povetkin if he had kept up the same pace like he did the first 4 rounds. If Povetkin fights the same way like he did against Chambers than he will be exposed by the other top heavyweights, let alone Wlad, because if this is how good he gets than their is not too much to say about him.

 

Ibragimov and Chagaev aren't going to be fighting Povetkin with their guard up all night, countering with lightning fast right hands. It's about styles. Chagaev and especially Ibragimov will be a lot easier to hit and overwhelm with punches.

 

I'm not totally sold on Povetkin. Against Chambers , he wasn't really setting down on his punches. He seemed to be fighting the point scoring amatuer (high level amatuer) style, rather than a real pro style. I was however impressed with Sasha's resolve when things weren't going so well for him at first. He kept punching , and never let up. The swollen eye didn't seem to bother him a bit. A heavyweight who throws over 900 punches in a twelve rounder is indeed a hard worker. But unless Alexander starts putting some more pop behind his punches , he's not a player. He did what he had to against Chambers who would probably trouble any of the top guys, but power is the game among the big boys.

 

chambers aint a puncher and hurt and busted up povetkin. had chambers had a little fighting heart, povetkin would have lost.

chagaevs power combined with povetkin leaky defense will leave povetkin staring at the cealing.........of the local ER!!

 

Holyfield might have retired if he had met Povetkin. I agree with you, just because he isn't ready for Wlad doesn't mean he is a bum. Povetkin can probably beat all current heavyweights not named Klitschko. And he may never have what it takes ot beat a prime Wlad, so what? Frazier would not have beaten Foreman in 1000 years.

I can see why Povetkin was a star amateur and how he is somewhat limited in the pros: He is willing to take a flush shot to deliver his combinations. With head gear, no problem, he will always outwork other heavyweights with this style. But against someone like Wlad, one flush shot can be one too many and I don't think Povetkin has good reflexes to learn how to slip punches. Against a lesser puncher, he is a difficult guy to beat.

 

At the present HW scene Povetkin is a top player and the only fighter he can't beat right now is Wlad.

Of course he would split the odds of winning against 6 or 7 others, including 3 champions, but to be able to be this high with just 15 pro fights is really impressive.

Some people are underrating him for his unimpressive win against Chambers, but they forget it is all about matchups, Povetkin had to play a different game to beat Chambers, but he did win convincingly.

The important thing is that I did see some improvements from the Byrd fight.

 

It took a great effort to be Chambers. No shame in having a tough fight there. Many gave Chambers no credit before and had seen much of him vs anything they felt was REAL. Both Povetkin and Chambers were real and AP had more in the tank, worked harder. and did more through the second half to WIN.

What showed was he needs to be in better condition. Povetkin had a jelly belly himself and looked like he was DYING between rounds, every round. Povetkin should be fighting at 210 or 215 at least. It might help him be quicker and he's gonna need his best to conquer Wlad.

Klitschko's experience and attributes are such that Povetkin is not going to take 5 rounds to adjust to. He had better figure Wlad out early:yep Klitschko has a long, fast, powerful, right hand that WILL LAND CLEANLY at some point. If Povetkin isnt careful and quick to adjust? He'll either be KO'd or bruising, swelling, cuts could be an issue in the second half for him. Had Chambers thrown in the second half? It could have been an issue THERE as well. Klitschko's CHAMPIONSHIP experience is such that he will keep letting his hands go, even if its in spurts in some rounds.

Povetkin will beat most other HW's right now. THING IS, he just won the eliminator to FACE WLAD. WK will beat Iggy and Povetkin better cut his vacation brief, and get running towards the GOAL:good

 

C MONEY, respect to you for honoring the bet and respect to you boy for a competitive fight (at least the 1st half of it). Now I agree with you that he is totally different from Byrd. Chambers is like Winky Right of the HW just with extremely low output.

 

Amsterdam, for once I agree with you. Here we have a guy that in his 15th Pro fight, fights an eliminator to face the #1 HW, against an undefeated fighter with a record of 30-0 (by many considered the best American HW), throws almost 1000 punches, no hugging, no running, no showboating, just pure boxing, and some people come to critisize him, for amteurish style, lack of power, being bruised and getting stunned(when was his stunned only God knows).

Yes, he is not ready for Klitschko, however, he can beat anybody else in the top 10. People with the claims for Arreola (who has not fought a live body yet) need to see a "special" doctor. because they suffer of extreme dilusions.

 

:thumbsup

Respect to you for acknowledging the difference between him and Byrd:good

Chambers usually throws more than that. Povetkin had something to do with that however. Credit him for the win.

 

I've seen all of Povetkin's tv fights. Most of his distractors have only seen Byrd and Chambers...Chambers did IMO a better job than rapid fire (patty cake) Byrd.
Slow and plodding????? He's the second fastest man in the heavy divison now...Chamber hands are so dammed fast, and accurate....Chambers did impress me(needed to learn lateral movement).....I'm sure Chambers arms hurt more than ever in his life....
I did find it odd the American in the Euro double coverage....now called Fighting in the Pocket by the Americans, and the Russian fighting in more open US/Brit style.

He has improved.On his 7th? fight was against Friday....who was much better than I expected and had come to win.. He beat Donald a good fighter who should have had a draw vs Valuolf...beat Byrd who was hoping he'd finlaly run out of gas being so "out of shape". Povetkin is the one of the busiest fighters in the ring since Frazier, and is in shape stammina wise.... Chambers was carrying too much weight inthe belly....he ran out of gas....as he slowed down, Povetkin slowed less.
He has decent power, but no Hammer From Hell punch. I won't say he can beat all of them, but except for Wlad, he will give them more fight than they want.....I'm sure with three Gold medals, he can shell against Wlad untill he gets in close, and hope to tire out Wlad. Wlad too has improved and even can keep his right hand close to his chin if he has too. Vs that comeback fight against the boxer now in jail, who he beat basicly with just the jab....making him wait for the right that never came untill too late.
He knows now he must improve....no one ever hit him that often clean, and not only that .....got away with it.