Guzmen v funeka - who won?

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  1. bdman

    bdman Active Member Full Member

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    Cast your votes lads...
     
  2. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    Clearly Funeka.
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funeka....118-110 on card....anything from 118-110 to 116-112 is reasonable....anything closer is a joke...
     
  5. prov

    prov Member Full Member

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    I just rewatched the fight...and I was trying to justify a 114-114 card....I originally had it 116-112.

    Since I was looking for a reason to give Guzman some rounds, I ended up seeing rounds 3, 7 and 11 for Guzman...rounds which I originally gave to Funeka.

    Guzman also had rd 8 until he got caught with that right hand...

    I'm starting to not think it was a terrible robbery....
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    **** me, two of the judges are two of our very own. :scaredas:
     
  7. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I never thought it was an awful robbery either. The winning judge had it 116-112. Is it impossible that 2 judges changed 2 different rounds. Like I said Guzman could be justified in taking 3 of the first 4 and atleast one of the championship rounds. Even Harold Lederman said there were swing rounds. I think robbery is one of the most over used terms in boxing. I read Dan Rafael's scorecard on ESPN.com and he said it was not a bad call or a rip off it was a high way robbery. Very exageratted. It was close closer than it seemed at first. You have to watch without the commentary and watch closely. Sometimes you only think a guy one becaue of an unofficial score or the announcer. I thought Funeka won by 116 to 112 or 117 to 111. I have not rewached the fight plus I had a bias because I rooted for Funeka. Like I said bad call but not the highway robbery GBP payoff I have been reading about.
     
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  9. Jeff Young

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    I think 115-113 would be generous to guzman....114-114 makes no sense at all....I had it 118-110, on clean effective punching, and ring generalship....guzman did almost nothing past round 2.....he got in a few times, but he still got outworked and outlanded in those rounds.....I dont look overall and said see, this guy won.....what I use punch stats for is to back up my claims and scoring round-by round....and it shows this fight was a rout in funeka's favor.....even if some want to say funeka's powershots didn't land cleanly...so what...

    the funeka jab was the best punch of the night...it landed cleanly, and a jab counts the same as a powershot...its a connect.....guzman did absolutely nothing to warrant a round past 2....
     
  10. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought Funeka did take over in round 3 or 4 and may have lost a round or two later in the fight. I think Funeka won but I am not that surprised with the draw. Kinda like Rahman Toney I I thought Rahman won but it was a draw and I did not really argue
     
  11. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    On Paper Guzman escapes w/ A draw.
    Reality tho, Funeka
     
  12. DocLouis

    DocLouis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Funeka, easy. I couldn't believe it. And I agree with pretty much everything that Jeff Young posted above...
     
  13. Motor City Sam

    Motor City Sam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post and good analysis, Jeff. I can't see how anyone would have given Guzman more than three rounds, tops.
     
  14. Saints Fan

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    lame
     
  15. marauder1999

    marauder1999 Champion Full Member

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    Theres really a poll for this? Everyone who watched this fight knows that it was highway robbery.