Gyms that have a must fight rule?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by TheExpertboxer, Mar 19, 2014.


  1. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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    I had some amatuer fights back in the day but I met this trainer who is trying to run a business and said "Look if someone is gonna be coming to this gym then they are going to be fighting and representing this gym". Aren't some people past competing at a certain age and just wanna workout? What if some people just wanna do it for hobby? Aren't they trying to get business? Can they dictate like that?
     
  2. LeeJonesJnr

    LeeJonesJnr Active Member Full Member

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    Sure why not?
    Any business can choose to refuse customers without reason in the UK, just not something many businesses want to do.
     
  3. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's a difference between going to a gym to box and wanting to get fit. A coach isn't going to want to waste time teaching someone that isn't going to compete.

    For those that don't want to compete it's easy enough to go to a regular gym, use a heavy bag at home or go to a boxercise class. Why would you want to take up space and equipment at a boxing gym just to do it as a hobby without competing?
     
  4. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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  5. He can knock people back as he chooses.

    Is there any obligation on Olympic track and field coaches to supervise your middle age neighbour's flabby wife while she plods around the neighbourhood in her fat ass tracksuit? Of course there isn't :patsch

    Plenty of gyms around. Just a matter of finding one that suits your needs.
     
  6. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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    I would only get up for the golden gloves at this point in time. MAYBE
     
  7. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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    And plus who says "They need to be representing my gym" as if they have to be your guinea pig or promo slave.
     
  8. It's his gym and his call. Find another gym if you want to train and that one doesn't suit you :good
     
  9. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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    Cool. I'm too old to listen to trainers that wanna be your boss when you're the one paying.
     
  10. If you are training to fight he is your boss. If you are not training to fight he's not interested in your business. Pretty simple. Find another gym mate :good
     
  11. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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    customer is the boss mate. I had a trainer in the past that tried to get me to train hard and fight with 3 loose ligaments in my ankle. I went to Physical therapy instead and barely avoided surgery. I was 18. You can't trust a guy that's out for himself.
     
  12. First think you need to do is find a good trainer who isn't out for himself. Then listen to him like he is your boss and you will learn. If you expect to be boss of a good trainer he won't work with you for long.
     
  13. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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    True. There are certainly trainers out for themselves. I guess my bad experience with the trainer who kept trying to push me after my ankle started loosing mobility and stability (For an amatuer tournament mind you. Not a pro fight worth millions) and then tried to scold me for it has made me more skeptical.
     
  14. Just move on. Do your research and find a good trainer. They are out there and most are on the lookout for keen new guys :good
     
  15. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Plenty of people will take your money and let you work out or -- often for more money -- teach you to fight.

    This guy wants to train boxers who box. That's his right. As a guy who spent a few years coaching boxers I can see where you're coming from but I can also see where he's coming from.

    We charged a nominal fee and it was made clear that the ones who had no interest in fighting weren't going to take teaching time away from those who were -- there was one of me and many of them, and if I had two or three who were fighting amateur or pro I was going to spend a lot more time with them than I was with someone who was doing it for fitness or for kicks. The ones who were going to be getting into the ring for real were going to pay the price for whatever I didn't have time to teach them while working out the fitness guys.

    I know of gyms where the coach will charge you a pretty high hourly wage for "private" or "personal" lessons. Should be easy to find one. I didn't do that because I have a full-time job and could only be at the gym for a few hours after work each day.