H2H "era rumble" 60s-75 vs 00s-15s

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Which Era is H2H stronger?

  1. "The Dark Ages"

    55.6%
  2. "The Golden Era"

    22.2%
  3. About even

    22.2%
  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 banned Full Member

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    10 men from each 15 year period (I centered it around the best years of Ali to capture the "golden era" of HW boxing) now if you think my list doesn't best represent the 15 year pieces feel free to add / retract certain fighters you feel more suitable - I wanted to have a nice mix from the 60s / best of the 70s and good overlap for the 2000s.

    Your job as a match maker is to give your "side" the best shot of coming away with more wins.

    So say as a small scale example

    Patterson vs Lewis
    Frazier vs Sanders
    Liston vs Byrd


    You could count this as 2-1 etc whatever its just IYO or just vote on which era is H2H stronger in the polls.


    "Golden era" team
    Muhammad Ali
    Joe Frazier
    Sonny Liston
    George Foreman
    Ken Norton
    Ron Lyle
    Gerry Quarry
    Clevland Williams ( Or Patterson?)
    Oscar Bonavena

    "The Dark Ages"
    Lennox Lewis
    Vitali Klitschko
    Wladmir Klitschko
    Alexander Povetkin
    Chris Byrd
    Corrie Sanders
    Tyson Fury
    David Haye
    David Tua
    John Ruiz (Or should it be "Big" James?)
     
  2. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    These guys would be Corbett’s thong carriers had they been around in his day.
     
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  3. Journeyman92

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    They lack the functional strength to lift it.
     
  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Young over Bonavena
     
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  5. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can my men fight more than once, spaced out by 4-5 months or so? If so, I take the 60's group, have '66 Ali fight everyone while the others focus on carrying his jock strap.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis honestly shouldn't be on that list, he left in the early 2000s and what filled the vacuum was billed as the dark ages
     
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  7. Journeyman92

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    Me picks for the 2000s era

    Wlad vs Ali
    Lennox vs Liston
    Sanders vs Frazier
    Tua vs Norton
    Toney vs Foreman
    Byrd vs Lyle
    Fury vs Quarry
    Ruiz vs Ellis
    Haye vs Williams
    Povetkin vs Bonavena

    8-2 or 9-1 with good odds for 10-0 (Ellis and Williams could score the W)
     
  8. Journeyman92

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    Naw
     
  9. Journeyman92

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    He was there till 2003 and had his debatably biggest win, Lennox stays.
     
  10. Journeyman92

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    You can use Young can't believe I forgot about my uncle.
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    2000 wasn't the start of the dark ages. Lewis retired before the Klitschkos and the new talent pool swept through the rankings
     
  12. Journeyman92

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    I don't care it's my thread, 1960 wasn't the start of the Ali era either it's good overlap to include more fighters Prime Liston, Lewis etc.
     
  13. Journeyman92

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    I already explained this in the last post ffs lol.
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just wouldn't have Lewis and Tua as apart of the "dark ages" The decline of popularity and broadcast sales for the heavyweight division during early 2000s happened because the 1990s stars retired and Klitschko was boring at times
     
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  15. Journeyman92

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    Too bad comrade though I agree with you.