H2H is a cop out

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tinman, Jun 18, 2015.


  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's cheap and lazy to just use the H2H mythical when comparing fighters. I can understand in good fun doing it with fighters from different eras.

    Other than that I think it's a way for fans to prop up their favorites because they don't have the resume to back up their claims.

    It should be about who you beat, when you beat them, and how you beat them.
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    P4P is bad enough, H2H is pretty pathetic for the MOST part.
     
  3. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thanks for reading you snarky sucker.
     
  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can agree with that,
     
  6. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Very true
     
  7. GolovKing

    GolovKing ESB Since 2006 Full Member

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    Interesting point you boys raise.

    Great example is Duran and Mayweather at lightweight.

    Duran is largely viewed as greatest lighweight of all time and of higher stature than Mayweather all time pound for pound.

    But there is also a lot of hard core heads that feel Mayweather could beat Duran at lightweight (i think he could, styles make fights, would probably bet Duran tho) and that should mean he is viewed as greater lighweight and all time.
     
  8. GolovKing

    GolovKing ESB Since 2006 Full Member

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    I think head to head should be tie breaker, like with pac-morales, etc.
     
  9. Eastpaw

    Eastpaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    both p4p and h2h are subjective mythical ratings. there's no truth behind any of them it's all opinions.
     
  10. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Never seen somebody say this. A better example of this is Golovkin. A guy who's best win is Daniel Geale, a guy who was just easily KOed in 4 rounds by a blown up JMW. Golovkin is solely ranked on the eye-test or H2H. Not that there is necessarily anything wrong with that.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    One fight doesn't make a whole career either way...
     
  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Golovkin is a good example. He's beaten nobody. Far from ATG. Far.
     
  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Bingo!

    When you match fighters head to head, you are effectively god, and accountable to no form of testing.

    If you compare them based on resume, people can call bull5hit on you very quickly, if you make a pick that is unwarranted.
     
  14. Eastpaw

    Eastpaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    to guys on this forum it does
     
  15. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why stop at resumes? They're overrated too. Let's just make up records. Change the rules so that when Floyd wins it goes to Excusequiao's record! Floyd is 0-0 right now :rofl