H2H: Trinidad VS Cotto

Tito KOs him inside 7 rounds.

 

Before the Margarito fight, there were polls about this and Cotto won by LANDSLIDE. Has he changed or has the perception changed that dramatically?

 

Really? I even thought Tito would be too much for Cotto even before the Margo fight, and many others felt the same way.

 

Cotto woulda left on a stretcher.

 

You have no clue what you're talking about.

 

With all the clueless, teeny bopper tards on this forum, that doesnt surprise me.

I never cared for Tito... but he woulda absolutely raped Cotto. I woulda said that even prior to the Marg fight.

 

Tito was a monster at welter. I don't see that many people ever beating him at that weight.

 

Jose Napoles, Sugar Ray Robinson, Kid Gavilan, Carmen Basillo, Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, Donald Curry, Wilfred Benitez, Roberto Duran, Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley, and Floyd Mayweather Jr would in my judgment.

 

Take Floyd off that list. PBF does NOT beat Tito at 147.

 

Jose Nopales, Sugar Ray Robinson, Kid Gavilan, Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns and Wilfred Benitez are pretty much it. Basilio, Duran, and Mosely would only ever beat a past prime Titio. Floyd Mayweather hasn't fought enough top welters with power for me to make a credible judgement @ 147 (although below 147 he was gr8). As for De La Hoya in the one fight they did have he allowed a decision to slip to his fingers due to his lack of stamina. Would De La Hoyas stamina have improved for say a rematch? I do not know. He was however a superior technician, but we will never know if stamina would have effected a rematch. Anyway you put it we still agree that Nopales, Robinson, Gavilan, Leonard, Hearns, and Benitez would have beaten Tito and Cotto is not at that level when as far as welters go.

 

I make my judgment off seeing Oscar De La Hoya, a far easier target to hit than Mayweather, box Trindiad's ears off for 10 rounds in a fight he should have easily won. If Oscar can cause Trinidad problems with lateral movement and working behind a jab, what do you suppose Floyd Mayweather would do against Tito. I think it would be a fairly one sided affair, Tito not having proved himself against great opposition, but was outboxed on three different occasions - severely in all three.

I think Floyd Mayweather Jr is the only question mark on the entire list - the rest of the guys beat him, including Mosley who doesn't go down easily, and has a combination of speed and power that could Trinidad troubled. Tito would certainly taste the canvas, he had some serious issues with his balance and Mosley would capitalize on that, as would 95% of the list. Oscar did beat Trinidad, I and most ringside observers felt, so he belongs on the list also. Trinidad was a really good Welterweight, but look at his opposition and tell me what was so spectacular about his reign?

 

You're right about Floyd I still have questions about his chin @ welter other than that, you have a fair point there with Floyd. As for Mosley, he likes to brawl and doesn't have B-Hops power. That would be his downfall. Now for the De La Hoya fight. Before I begin I would like to say that the point of the thread was bout Cotto vs. Trinidad not Trinidad vs. De La Hoya. That being said ten rounds huh, most people say seven rounds. If you can say that it was only seven rounds, then it is a reasonable statement to say that had De La Hoya continued to fight that way in the remaining rounds then there was no way that the judges would have not awarded him (Oscar) the decision. But the fact remains that the judges did not give him that decision and in my mind it was due to his lack of stamina. I mean look at the scores they were very close and one of the judges scored it a draw. More stustained effort on De La Hoyas part would have given him the decision. Also if it were a 15 round fight the decision would not even be controversial. Of course if you don't budge on that 10 rounds then there is no deverging from your position. That being said a rematch would have resolved this situation. They would both make adustments, but would De La Hoya's stamina be better? If not I don't see him getting a decision. In conclusion and on topic Trindidad beats Cotto. But I think that Cotto beats De La Hoya (styles make fights).

 

I think it more has to with the styles, but Trinidad is definetly not as good as Cotto from a techinical stand point and boxing ability.

 

Trinidad cleaned out (with the exception of Quartey) a very competitive ww division. Had he not moved up to 154 I have no doubt that Mosely, Spinks, and Forest would have never become WW champs.

 

Actually, yes he is. Tito's skills have become quite underrated over the years. He did have good boxing ability, and talent wise he was just on a much higher level from Cotto.