H2H,who beats a prime Tyson

Sandra you must be 17 you are very infantile and dumb

 

so... you are claiming that out of all the champion and contenders that Tyson fought over the five years previous...NOT ONE OF THEM ... had given it to Tyson like that?

NOT ONE OF THEM in five years??? what are the odds on none of a dozen top fighters and a dozen lesser ones NOT TURNING UP for the fight?

or IS IT NOT MORE LIKELY THAT TYSON ON THIS ONE OCCASION simply didn't turn up due to his lack of commitment?

yeah exactly, flop mate.

 

LOL fun thread ...

 

I'm not sure if this is an offbeat suggestion or not but I think Tim Witherspoon at his very best is a tough night for Tyson. The more obvious candidates have already been mentioned.

 

a Tim at his best would be a handful for most ATGs,,,, good mention Jake :good

 

Yes because half the ex champions and contenders he fought were on the slide or past it....

Game over.

 

Who beats a prime Tyson?

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Of course it wasn't. He isn't a robot! Nobody ever said that, but you bringing it up must be bubbling over in your subconscious somewhere.

Looks like your emotional investment in Mike Tyson has become a bit more obvious...

 

I was just contributing to the discussion. If you resent my contribution, that's up to you. I didn't say anyone "said" anything.

My point being, a good fighter with the right game plan always has that chance to capitalize on his lapses and establish their own rhythm. Of course, the reverse is true too, Tyson disrupts the opponent's attempts to do so by establish his own destructive pace. His record in doing so speaks for itself.

This is what we should do in these types of threads, cover possibilities and discuss details, strength and weaknesses. But for whatever reason you don't understand why anyone would "bring up" a weakness of Tyson's, to you it can only mean "HATRED!" of your favourite fighter. Especially if they do it often.

That's a poor attempt to deflect your own issues. You should quit really. Learn to discuss boxing and get over whatever it is that's troubling you.
All your talk of "hate" and stuff was a bit silly, and you should know it.

Funny that you figured me to be around 65, I thought you were around my age 40-odd (my generation who grew up watching Tyson in our teens), but now I'm pretty sure you're a kid.

 

You're right. I've gotten more and more irritated at your posts on Tyson. I think what triggered this last episode was the post where you claimed:

Mike Tyson is simply a beefed up Floyd Patterson.

Care to elaborate?

 

He's a beefed up Patterson with a better chin, no more no less.

 

That is in regards to how I think Tyson matches up with Liston.

I already stated :
"Tyson was a short-armed, short (perhaps only 5'10) stocky heavyweight with a peek-a-boo defense.
I happen to think a long-armed skillful boxer-puncher/bomber of Liston's quality would pierce that defense immediately and continue to take him apart."

In other words, Tyson comes straight at Liston with his hands held in the D'amato-taught fashion, looking to land combinations, often delivered from an almost neutral stance. As a particular style and approach to boxing, I think it is made for Liston.

Tyson is bigger (in bulk and weight, not height), stronger, more durable and more powerful than Patterson.
So he'd last longer and pose far more of a threat.
But essentially styles make fights, and this style match up suits Liston very very well. In my opinion.

The thing with Liston he was very brutal on the inside too. Tyson's best hope is to land something from the outside when exploding in, like he did at his best, for example the right hand on Holmes.
But I see Liston having the better averages, in terms of opportunities.

 

For my money, there's nothing "simply" about that. Floyd was a terrific fighter and if you add 30 lbs of strength and power to that you have a down right frightening one. And that is what he, with exception for the Douglas fight, was for the duration of his prime.

As of who beats prime Tyson, there's no idea in pretending there are any sure answers to that. My best bet would be the SHWs of the last 20 years (Bowe, Lewis, the Klit brothers) and of course Holy, who beat a faded Tyson when past his own prime. And let's not forget that Douglas did beat a Tyson in his prime, just not a Tyson on his best night.

 

Id beat his ass

 

population of Chicago would for sure.