H2H who in your opinion is the most TALENTED fighter, Haye or Wlad?

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  1. Andre

    Andre BAD INTENTIONS!!!!!!!!!!! Full Member

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    NBT Mοderator of Death Full Member

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    Wlad, by a mile, no contest. He lacks a few other things but not talent although Steward does his best to bury it and change him to a two punch fighter.
     
  3. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad by ten miles.
     
  4. Prescott_Fan

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  5. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Wladimir and it ain't close.
     
  6. Andre

    Andre BAD INTENTIONS!!!!!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Interesting. For the people who say its not close, why do you think that?
     
  7. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Cuz Wladimir is a calm,intelligent fighter that knows his strengths and weaknesses and knows how to use them instead Haye is reckless wild slugger who can get KO'd a lot easier by anybody.
     
  8. Prescott_Fan

    Prescott_Fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even thoug Wlad has been KO'd more times than Haye? Interesting.....
     
  9. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think that Wlad maybe the most talented fighter as a heavyweight in 25 years, the only other fighters that I think can rank up there with him in terms of talent is Lewis and Shannon Briggs...But just like Briggs something is missing with Wlad, something that seems to hold him back from being an great heavyweight...However in terms of pure talent in a p4p way its Haye by a mile, but at heavyweight it isnt going to be a p4p kind of thing because if the two were to fight Wlad would be much bigger, and much to powerful for Haye.
     
  10. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yes,even though,it has no relevence.Haye will get KO'd for sure sooner or later.
     
  11. Boxfan1

    Boxfan1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wladimir is much more talented and better trained than Haye. Haye relies mainly on ability, while Wladimir who could easily rely on nothing but ability, chooses to employ strategy, technique, and valuable fundamentals. He frequently boxes, when physics alone would let him get away with simply punishing his opponent. He respects everyone he fights, because his losses have taught him to do so. Haye has tons of talent, power and speed, but he's wild with his punches, his defense and his technique. Look at Wlads punches, perfect straight punches thrown from a defensive and balanced stance. Look at Haye's punches, wild, wide and looping with his balance all over the place. There really is no comparison when it comes to comparing skill level.
     
  12. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cause over the last few years, Wlad, under Steward's tutelage, has developed an excellent defense. Couple that with his power and jab, and Haye would be smoked if they fought. Barrett got through Haye's defense a few times. What do you think Wlad would do?
     
  13. Andre

    Andre BAD INTENTIONS!!!!!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Agree on some points, but i dont agree that Haye is wild, yes occasionally he throws wild and looping shots, but overall his technique is pretty good IMO.
     
  14. Prescott_Fan

    Prescott_Fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think he'd paw with the jab and be scared to throw the right hand.

    Your post actually doesn't say anything about why Wlad is more talented than Haye, it just points out that Wlad has been well trained (which he has been, by a very good trainer). In terms of natural talent Haye is streets ahead IMO.
     
  15. Prescott_Fan

    Prescott_Fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So Wlad having ACTUALLY been KO'd is of no relevance, but your opinion that Haye WILL BE KO'd is? :rofl