Had Hopkins actually won last night...

The Hopkins that fought last night would beat everybody but Calzaghe and just maybe Dawson and Kessler.

 

I agree, but lots of people weren't here last night and thats probably the issue.

 

More bull****. Calzagh/Hopkins was on regular HBO and didn't even sell out. Mayweather/De La Hoya was on PPV, broke the record for PPV buys, sold out in a matter of hours, and set the live gate record. You tell me which fight the public wanted more. Many people considered DLH to be the top JMW. Furthermore, Calzaghe never cleaned out **** until he was in his mid 30's. He spent most of his career defending his WBO belt. Floyd is only 31 and is alread a 6 time champion. Tell me how the hell Floyd fighting DLH is cherry picking but Calzaghe fighting Hopkins isn't.

 

JC first elite fighter was Eubanks.

 

I don't think the two of you are that far off- your talking general public and he is talking boxing public. The boxing public (myself included) wanted this fight. The general public could give a ****.

 

You are being tough on Mayweather here. If Hatton does not count, neither does Lacy.

 

who was washed up at the time and took the fight on 10 days notice.

 

Agreed but it was still his first elite fighter before the BHOP fight.

 

Did he take the fight at 10 days notice? If so, i did not know, do you have a source possibly?

 

Joe had already picked up at least one fan in the US (or rather I should say, cemented himself as forever worthy of fandom) after his magical performance against Kessler.

Last night was not vintage Joe, but he got the job done and ought to have finally shut up all the whining about not fighting top-rated American names on American soil. Accurate scorecards should not be very close.

 

Well, seeing bias is perhaps a little hard.

One of your points was - People were actually calling for the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight.

I agree. But at the same time, people were also calling for the Hatton-PBF fight. But because it's PBF, it doesn't matter right?

You consider Hatton useless, but your thoughts of Hopkins PRE Calzaghe was quite similar. I see that you still maintain this.

So ultimately, there's not too much difference to the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight and the PBF-Hatton fight, OUTSIDE of the dominant performance of PBF.

You then say you doubt Calzaghe will fight a useless fight next, despite MANY rumours of a fight with Roy Jones. A fight with Jones is a WORSE fight then a PBF-Dela Hoya rematch, to me (I outlined a thread on this)

Floyd fights the path of least resistance is bull ****, especially in comparison to Calzaghe. That was Calzaghe for 10 years (fighting at home protected in Wales against the Pudwills and Jimnezes's of the world), where during this time, Floyd created an ALL TIME resume cleaning out a NUMBER of divisions (fighting the top guys)... You fail to mention that Floyd was unable to fight the best at 140 (on no fail of his own) and beat the LINEAL champ at 147 by beating the man who beat the man. I don't count going for the undisputed champ as ducking Margarito. But that's just me. I can see how some do.

Floyd's only made one defence, against the no. 1 fighter from 140 (which, of no fail of his own, he was unable to do when he was there). After Dela Hoya, he has no excuse to not fight Cotto.

But you act as if he's been "ducking" Cotto for years. Cotto's only just emerged as the OFFICIAL challenger. Yes, Floyd must fight him. But he didn't need to have done it last year.

 

It is well known that Eubanks took the fight with JC at short notice and was originally prepaping for a fight at light heavy. Also he was ill with the flu, washed up and gun shy after the Watson fight. None of this is JC fault but it has tainted his win a little bit!