Haglar vs Ray Robinson

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by booradley, Oct 4, 2007.


  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    that can happen when you have 3453 fights :good
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Il like your post,its succint and to the point ,but gets to the basics,I lean towards ray,but good judges like Mickey Duff, a very shrewd matchmaker pull for Hagler,I may be wrong but I think the "sugar man" would pull out a decision.
     
  3. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Had you seen SRR live at welter, b88, all those tepid performances would have been forgotten. He was a cold-blooded hit man in silk.

    All of his smiles, gifts to the cancer fund and modest replies in the press masked a stone killer...and I knew him as well as a kid could; he gave me boxing tips.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I gotta be honest, i love hearing you talk of Robinson, especially considering you watched the man live.

    Mate i'd really appreciate it if you could throw forward some random thoughts and comments on him and his abilities and fights. As many as you like if you cane sometime find the time. Your experiences should not go untold. We are likely talking about the greatest fighter to ever lace on a glove.
     
  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    IMO, Roy would have beaten Hagler at 160.
     
  6. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Appreciate it, JT. PM me an email address and I'll send you a Word document.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Have done John, thanks mate.
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    If the unskilled La Motta could trouble Ray with pressure, I have no doubt that a prime Hagler takes him out with ease.
     
  9. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I never get into mythical match-ups, Ac -- too futile; the best argument means nothing. Nobody gets the satisfaction of proving a point.

    If they were really to fight, I'd give you chapter-n'-verse, and we'd all sit back and see how it played out.

    The best I can do is say I'd pay top-dollar to be ringside.
     
  10. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right now I'd trade an awful lot to be 25.
     
  11. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    In a 15 round fight, I predict Robinson 7-6-2. No real reason. Lots of close rounds.
     
  12. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler UD12

    Two times out of three.
     
  13. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If a shot version of Ray Leonard could outbox Hagler, then I am sure Ray Robinson would take him out with ease

    It works both ways ****** :good
     
  14. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In his prime,Hagler trained at the tip of Cape Cod in Provincetown like Marciano did in the 1950's.
    Isolated...away from the crowd...he focused on his next opponent.....great fighter!! Being from Massachusetts Rocky and Marvin are icons..I'll go with Hagler in this one...ever so slightly!!
     
  15. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watts and Monroe were slick fighters with good speed. He avenged both losses with ease, although I suspect that Watts stellar performace in the first fight was used by Leonard -angles, clinches, popping punches to disrupt rythym.

    Also, I am not so sure that Leonard beat Hagler even primarily due to speed. That fight is used far to liberally as demonstrable of Hagler's stylistic weaknesses.