Haglar vs Ray Robinson

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I've never seen much of Vito, but he's more capable than LaMotta if he was even remotely competitive with anyone decent from the 80's.:yep :good

 

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I am the biggest Hagler fan there is, but I gotta go Ray by decision. For the record I believe there is NO WAY Ray knocks out Hagler in his prime. Beat him possibly yes, but knock him out - I highly doubt it. Hagler still has a great shot at winning this one though. I think this would truly be, "THE" matchup

 

I agree with your friend! This would be one of the best ever. I think Hagler would win... but it should be remembered I'm a huge Hagler fan :good

 

I pick Hagler. Sugar Ray was the greatest welterweight of all time but not the greatest MW. Hagler is considered by many the greatest MW of all time and lost the title only once in a hotly disputed decision to Ray Leonard who wisely avoided Marvin until his skills significantly diminished. At MW Hagler posessed more power than Robinson and his ability to take power shots flush on the jaw is legendary. Marvin was no plodder either. He had fast hands and employed plenty of upper body movement and head feints as well. This being said it's still conceivable that Robinson could use his speed advantage to frustrate Marvin and take a points victory but I still lean toward Marvin at MW in what could possibly be the greatest MW fight in history and one of the greatest fights of all time at any weight.

 

Robinson by decision. Ray would beat Hagler to the punch with his superior handspeed and he had enough power to get his respect.

 

Oh Dear Oh Dear

 

He may have lost but that wasn't a peak Hagler. The Hagler of 1980-1983 would be a very tough fight for Robinson.

 

He'd be a tough fight for anyone.

 

Look up 'limited overachiever' in a thesaurus and you'll find a piece of his scar tissue. :good

 

Your question boggles my mind, A. How can you say such a thing when you never saw SRR live in the '40s! Do you depend on BoxRec?

Sugar was poetry in motion -- a stone killer in silk.

Had you seen him, you'd never have posted that.

 

If I wasn't such a dinosaur, I'd say, "my bad," Assassin.

 

i would see hagler knocking down robinson, but robinson will take this fight via DECISION

 

I've always thought Robinson would beat Hagler at 160, despite Hagler being significantly greater at the weight.