Hagler - Baddest Mofo of our Era

I'd have to agree with you and go with Marvelous Marvin Hagler

In the ring, he had to take the hard route suffering 2 close decisions and fighting tough Philadelphia middleweights (Watts, Briscoe, Hart) before he could finally secure a title shot. When he became champion, he didn't allow the judges to decide his fights. He cleaned out the middleweight division while racking up 12 title defenses, 11 by knockout. He was an absolute terror in the ring who could rough you up, fight on the inside, fight outside, counterpunch, knock you out, and pehaps take the best shot of any middleweight in history. It's arguable that he was never really knocked down in his entire career. Plus, he was so tough mentally. He wasn't a guy who went around acting like he was the baddest or the toughest or saying he was publically, it just came off naturally with him. I love his quote regarding the Hearns' pinky finger incident - "you know how many people would give a million dollars for that little baby pinky? They'd cut that thing off."

The total package - truly a bad mofo!

 

I became a boxing fan because of Duran and Hagler, so I have a lot of respect for both of them. Hager in particular as I recall thinking that this guy would die rather than loose and he's tough as nails..not someone you would ever want to be on the wrong side of.

 

Tyson for his short peak was far badder. Experienced opponents, talented opponents, most seemed scared stiff. Many were beaten before even fronting up. Every name i seem to think of has some sort of knock. Hagler was pretty meek vs Duran and Leonard, Tyson had some ordinary efforts when bested, Gomez got a couple of hammerings. Duran quit and had some bad showings.

The guy i will go for is Jeff Fenech. He is a genuine badass, not a built up one. He had a couple of losses at the end but for 6 or 7 years he was ferocity personified in the ring. Dirty, strong, and willing to go thru anything to beat you. He fought with constant pressure of which there was no respise whatsoever. Look at opponents by the end of his bouts, they've been there some hell. He was absolutely vicious.

 

Outside the ring he was pretty ferocious and vicious as well. Wouldn't wanna mess with him

 

Amen to this thread. Hes my fav :bbb

He had to knock out his competition - otherwise the judges would rob the fight from him!

 

For sure, that's what i mean by genuine badass. It was his very persona. Not a nice guy our Jeff lol.

 

I may also have to go with Jeff here.
He went balls out every time.

 

I might also add that it takes a badass to continue to fight like Fenech did with a broken hand/s (in fact anyone who fights on gains my respect). Fenech suffered from chronic hand problems and in some fights I believe he broke both hands and fought on to win, this is made especially difficult by the mauling style he employed where he had to throw punches all the time to be effective. I hurt my thumb in my 2nd fight and was wary of throwing it, so to imagine what fighters like Fenech, Gatti, Whitaker and Hearns went through is unbelievable

 

I'd say Mike was more fearsome outside than inside where he would regularly be taken the distance by mediocrities. Wasn't very impressed with the Biggs fight and Douglas should never have ran him down like that.

Fenech I can go for. A genuine tough guy but what went wrong in the Nelson fight? I thought Nelson was supposed to win the rematch. Guess I was wrong for the first time.

I kind of felt DLH was a bad dude. Never got in a street fight for some reason.

Hagler would be my choice for bad ass with his unlimited power and abilities.

Another choice would be a young Roy Jones with his enormous hand speed.

 

Matthew Saad Muhammad... end of debate.

 

Jones Jnr and Oscar???
They were both brilliant fighters but they weren't bad ****s in any way shape or form.
Jones spoke at length about never wanting to hurt an opponent in the ring and showed compassion towards overmatched foes on numerous occasions.He was apparently punching the ring apron screaming for the fight to be stopped when calling the Gabe Ruales-Jimmy Garcia fight,hardly the actions of a badass imo.
De La Hoya was all business in the ring but it was just that for him-business.
He never held personal animosity towards any opponent (maybe Vargas excepted) but his job was to destroy these guys and it's what he tried to do.

 

I'm relieved Matt never took on Mike Spinks in a 15 rounder, when his fire still burned bright and hot within. Miracle Matthew might have become Murdered Matthew with his guts. (I've never been able to figure out how that torso of his could contain a heart that humongous.)

 

A badass doesn't need to say **** about being a bad ass. It doesn't mean they lack the ability to empathise with an extreme circumstance like watching a fighter slowly being killed in the ring. Whether he's a bad ass or not, Jones asking for that fight to be stopped is irrelevant in regards to his "badass-edness".

 

Please don't think I'm denigrating Roy in any way for calling for the Ruales-Garcia fight to be stopped when he did,as I wish to God it had've been stopped earlier.Jones was obviously spot on about this,plus he also showed compassion towards Bryant Brannon when beating him down (same deal with Reggie Johnson I always thought) and openly expressed trepidation about fighing Vinny Pazienza before they met.
I just found his humanity being at odds with his being a great pro fighter.
A complex person was Roy I always thought.