Hagler (circa Hearns) vs. Toney (circa McCallum)

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Apr 20, 2010.


  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    12 rounds at 160, obviously.

    I'm shocked this hasn't been done with all the hypothetical hobbyists around here...it seems a fairly obvious pairing. Search says it hasn't. :conf

    Feel free to propose and discuss matches involving other versions of each - these are just my subjective interpretation of the "classic form" of both at middleweight.
     
  2. Dave's Top Ten

    Dave's Top Ten Active Member Full Member

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    Great fight, and would have been a great fight with Hagler at his peak. Toney's defence and counterpunching would make it competitive, but he's too stationary to beat Hagler. Toney gets bullied around in the second half of the fight and drops a decision.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    ****! I've voted for Toney by mistake! Somebody undecided vote for Hagler.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Ah so desu ka.

    I was eagerly awaiting your justification. :verysad :lol:
     
  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hagler was a good and mobile boxer. If he boxes Toney, which I assume he would, he win. Toney is too stationary. I expect Hagler to box at longrange and only get aggressive when the possibility shows up. Clear win for Hagler.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Very accurate, prime Hagler, doesn't waste anything. Very economical, doesn't fluster unless he's been hurt.
     
  7. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's a super hard pick... I voted a draw..... Why? Cuz Hagler was clearly aging by '85, but still deadly........ Toney began struggling with weight at 160 immediately following his KO win over Mike Nunn in 1991....... So in a sense, you've got one aging fighter and one slightly drained fighter...... BOTH highly skilled.......... After 12 rds, I have a draw.....

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    Hagler is indeed the superior middleweight in the books of history, but Toney is indeed a great historical fighter in his own right....... Especially at much heavier weights than what Hagler ever fought at as a pro.......

    MR.BILL
     
  8. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Well Hagler coming to fight in that fashion is given shitloads of problems here. But i still think that because he still posesses all of his skill he would still win the fight.
     
  9. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I won't pick Toney, but I think he certainly has a better chance here than against the Hagler of earlier years who was lighter on his feet and tougher to hit. Toney's always done better against aggressive fighters, where Toney can use his terrific counterpunching skills, than against guys who box and move laterally and use the ring.

    The Hagler who fought Sibson a couple years earlier was better, but he adjusted to perfection against Hearns. The style he fought against Hearns increases Toney's chances to win.
     
  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Toney was pretty much always struggling at 160, and was a bit lucky to meet a slightly past it McCallum.

    That said, Hagler would of struggled to come to terms with Toney style, due in part to his poor training team.

    Also Hagler would be hurt in that the fight was only a 12 rounder.

    I would expect Hagler to edge a 12 rounder, but it would be mighty close. Much like the Duran fight, I think Hagler would of needed the Championship rounds, to put some proper daylight between himself and a tiring Toney.
     
  11. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hope that fence you are sitting on, has splinters; MRBILL! ;)
     
  12. kickbxn5

    kickbxn5 Active Member Full Member

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    Great matchup here! Hagler by decision. Toney gets flustered at Hagler's ability to box, slug and switch hit.
     
  13. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what you mean by that