Hagler: "Leonard ran like a little girl!"

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  1. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    You're giving him wins for the Watts and Monroe fights as well? Very generous of you......:good
     
  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Thats always been my take on it. Hagler lost too many early rounds too cheaply. I've watched the fight many times but only scored it twice, 115-114 and 115-113 to Leonard although I accept it was a close fight that could have gone to Hagler.
     
  3. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Hagler deserved to lose for that dance he did after the fight.
     
  4. Fighting Pride

    Fighting Pride Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well Hagler, you freakin fought like an old lady the first 4 rounds..Leonard wasn't running, he was fighting smart..unlike you dumbass
     
  5. Thread Stealer

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    I had Hagler clearly beating Watts on points. However to the best of my knowledge the loss to Monroe was never filmed, and it was a clear win for the Worm.
     
  6. ramalinga

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    Hagler has only himself to blame. He claimed he was never hurt by Leonard's punches, then why didn't he walk through them and knock him out? There are several moments in the fight when Hagler has Leonard right where he wants him, on the ropes, Leonard flurries and actually backs up Hagler. Hagler probably wasn't hurt, but certainly confused. Leonard landed more, enforced his gameplan better, had better defense. Hagler landed the harder punches, but without causing serious enough damage to outweigh Leonard's advantages.

    Oh, and I wanted Hagler to win as a matter of justice for the **** Leonard pulled at his retirement party.
     
  7. homebrand

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    yeah, that dance said it all. he hadn't done enough in the fight to win and he knew it.
     
  8. Govanmauler

    Govanmauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love Hagler but Leonard did outscore him. He didnt win the fight but he did win the boxing match ............. just !
     
  9. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Leonard edged that fight no matter what anyone says.
     
  10. GazOC

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    You only have to look at the corners over the last 2 rounds to see who thought they'd won the fight.
     
  11. homebrand

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    I think you misunderstand me. I give that fight to Leonard everytime. It's close, but definitely Leonard's win.
     
  12. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Yeah, I did!! I edited my post but you were too quick for me!! :D

    Apologies!!:good
     
  13. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Love Hag, but talk about holding a grudge.
     
  14. GDG

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    This theory that Leonard tried to "steal" the fight by rallying for the last 30 secs of the rounds may be true, but the 1st time I watched the fight I truly believed Leonard won....he fooled me easily. Watching it now I have it 6-5-1 for Leonard and am not as convinced that he won...but the judges don't get the benefit of hindsight, and I still think he won anyway!!

    The problem for Hagler is that he almost wanted to win this fight TOO much. His disdain for Leonard made him lose his senses and as a Hagler fan, I have to say he fought a terrible fight. If he'd have kept his composure more and been more intelligent with his pressure, this probably would've been an easy win for him given SRL's long lay-off.

    As has been pointed out, the corners seemed to know who was winning the fight, and I honestly think Hagler knew at the end of the fight, but like so many of us he's re-watched it and seen SRL stealing the rounds as a reason to claim he won.

    This fight really gave rise to the term "you have to beat the champion". A true fallacy if ever there was one.
     
  15. Loggo

    Loggo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe it when Haglar said if it was him that won and leonard said he didn`t win it, he would fight Leonard again. I think he would`ve fought Leonard again but after his disappointment of the decision he retired.