Hagler, Monzón, Hopkins?

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That's why who said what?

    :smoke
     
  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's why Hopkins said he would probably lose to Monzon.

    I think Nard is a great judge of the art of boxing...and Carlos in his prime was a great practitioner of it.
     
  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I tend not to trust an artist's interpretation of his own work.

    Just because Hopkins said he would have lost to Monzon does not necessarily make it so.
     
  4. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    How many boxers ever say that?...Its their job to be a little delusional. I cant for the life of me think why Nard would say something like that unless he truly meant it. If anything I agree with what your saying, but the other way around..most guys big themselves up and generally overrate their ability.
    Monzon was not a good person...He doesnt really deserve to be looked at half glass full.

    Anyway...Im just making up my own mind on it. I give a slight edges to Carlos.
     
  5. roscoe

    roscoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler, Monzon, Hopkins. Hagler was a pure monster in his prime, destruct & destroy!
     
  6. brownshell

    brownshell Active Member Full Member

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    Hagler, Monzon, Hopkins.
     
  7. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Hagler
    Monzon
    Hopkins

    in that order.
     
  8. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Hagler beats both (decisions)
    Monzon beats Hopkins
    Hopkins loses to both
     
  9. DINAMITA

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    Carlos Monzon is the greatest middleweight ever IMO. There's really not much between the three of them to be honest. I think Hagler was the most impressive boxer of the three at his peak, but Monzon had the better career. Stylistically, I'd back Hopkins to beat Hagler though. Three ATGs!
     
  10. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Monzon impresses me most on film and perhaps has the deepest resume, at middleweight anyway, if we are not to include Hopkins achivements above 160.

    Monzon
    Hagler
    Hopkins

    It's real close though.
     
  11. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    hagler was a small middleweight, but one of the toughest of all time, so he could be outboxed from the distance, but like calzaghe, he would throw punches nonstop and real punches, not slaps, especially on the inside. monzon had one the best jabs in middleweight history and a great right hand also. he wasn't flashy, but like hopkins, he was deadly accurate and most of his punches would find their mark. in another words, he hardly missed.

    hopkins, he's a cerebral assassin and patient like monzon and has hagler's tough grit and has never been ko'd. he's showed heart, but has been shown to be outworked and lost close decision fights to taylor and calzaghe. it's a tough pick but as great as hagler and hopkins are, there was never an answer to monzon and the guy retired at the top
     
  12. Thread Stealer

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    Hagler wasn't easy at all to outbox from the outside.

    He outboxed the majority of his opponents from the outside behind his jab and long arms.

    Monzon, however, Hagler would have absolute hell trying to outbox from the outside due to Monzon's height, range, and terrific judgement of distance.
     
  13. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one "destroyed" Monzon.
     
  14. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    head to head, hopkins would be the biggest and IMO the most dominant of the three, monzon thrives at kepping the distance against his opponents because in his time he was fighting small middleweights. but hopkins would tower over him
     
  15. WhataRock

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    By a whole inch...which would be essentially negated by the fact Carlos has an inch of reach over Bernard.

    The bulk of both their opponants were about 5'9-5'10.

    Carlos was almost never the smaller man...but was never ridiculously bigger then most of his opponents either..bar Napoles.