Hagler of hearns fight vs Benn of barkley ft,?

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  1. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tommy Hearns simply did not hit hard enough to keep Hagler off of him. That was demonstrated in their fight. Hagler stops him 10 out of 10, even the past prime version of Hagler. Actually thats the one that did fight Tommy.
     
  2. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler by KO in a shootout. Benn would advance quickly and draw Hagler into exchanges, but Marvin would be consistently landing the more accurate punches that would lead to Benn being chopped down in 5-7 rounds.
     
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  3. FastHands(beeb)

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    Hagler would absolutely annihilate Benn imo. A different level of boxer.
     
  4. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no.. Hagler fought a war in that fight unlike any fight he ever fought. Hearns in a rematch is fighting a slower pace and using his jab , and gets the room to land his right hand..I don't think anyone knocks out Marvin, but I think Tommy rocks him and swells him up and wins the rematch. A knockout wouldn't surprise me, but I doubt it. TKo.
     
  5. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler, by however he wants.
     
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  6. Clinton

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    No way does Tommy win a rematch. Marvin proved that he could walk through ANYTHING Tommy throws at him: jab, straight right, it doesn't matter. You have absolutely 0 basis for your statement because we all saw Marvin take Tommy's best shot and jabs and go right through them. So you still haven't mentioned how Tommy would keep Marvin off of him, which he obviously couldn't do in their 1st. Go at a slower pace,lol? Why couldn't Hagler fight that aggressively again in a rematch? Actually, being that aggressive suited Marvin at that stage because he was past his best and his reflexes and speed were slowing down. But he still had that chin. Tommy could use his jab all he wants. It obviously isn't strong enough to keep Marvin off of him. I think in a rematch, Marvin knocks him out earlier as he knows Tommy obviously doesn't have anything to keep him off.
     
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  7. Ronnie Raygun

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    Hagler by homicide in 1 rd against benn
    Hagler ko hearns in rd 4
     
  8. Ronnie Raygun

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    Funniest sht i have herd all day
    Hearns tko hagler ?
    Couldnt do it the first time
    Sure as hell aint doing it the second time
     
  9. PernellSweetPea

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    Hearns was 6-1 1/2 and had a 78 inch reach. Hearns was not going to beat him with lateral movement like Ray, but his jab was the key. Hagler came out smoking because Hearns was dumb to make him mad, but also that was how Hagler had to fight to stay close since Hearns needed room to punch, and also to hit Hearns also. Hearns broke his hand when he landed an awkward punch I think about 40 seconds into the fight. Had Hagler fought a slower pace Hearns would have landed the jab and probably landed some right hands on Marvin which maybe not knocked him out, but rocked him. It would have been tough, but I think a rematch where Hearns does not break his hand turns out very different. I can see a TKO over Hagler in about 7 or 8, which is what Emanuel saw Hearns doing in the first fight. Hagler comes out fast and by a few rounds Hagler gets tired. Remember something, and you guys will disagree. Look at Hagler at the end of round 2 and beginning of round 3 in the first fight. He was exhausted in round 3 and had a hard time hitting Hearns, which most people don't see. He was tired, and had Hearns somehow had a few rounds of energy in his then, I think Hearns jab would have busted Marvin's face up and cut him up and stopped the fight. Most people see how tired Hearns was,but look at Hagler. He put out a lot at that point, so he was exhausted. I don't think Marvin could have ever put that effort out in a rematch. That was superhuman and incredible effort and it paid off.
     
  10. PernellSweetPea

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    One thing interesting I have identified what cut Hagler's face and no it does not seem to matter to people. I don't think people believe me when I say Hearns mouthpiece is what caused Hagler's cut.
     
  11. Ronnie Raygun

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    Hagler was tired in the third rd ?
    Hagler khtfo in the third rd !!! How could he be tired ?
    Slower pace ? No matter what speed hagler fights hearns hagler kos tommy remember tommy biggest weakness
    No chin
     
  12. PernellSweetPea

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    He was still tired. Hearns was exhausted, and Hagler was missing him in round 3 and Tommy was putting his arm out and holding him back and landing good jabs with Hearns then holding him, and Marvin not being able to let go as much. Look at round 3... But Hearns was exhausted and ready to go, but had Hearns had more energy, Hagler would have been in big trouble. When Steele halted the fight to have the doctor look at Hagler's cut, Hagler tried to go after Hearns because he was scared they would stop it. I don't think Hagler beats Hearns that easily in the rematch. And Hagler knows it. Why do you think Hagler fought the fight of his career vs. Hearns. I think he knows Hearns was a tough guy to beat more than you do.. Look at how Marvin fought.
     
  13. surfinghb

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    Hearns fractured his right hand in multiple places in the first round.. fight is over then. The rest was just gravy. Best 3 rounds in boxing with one guy fighting with one glove basically.. I'm not here to say hearns wins a rematch or hagler doesn't knock him out in a rematch in 3 again at all, but to put a lot of stock in rounds 2 and 3 is just crazy ..imo ..
     
  14. PernellSweetPea

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    All I know is this. In round 3 up until the time Richard Steele has the doctor look at Hagler's cut, Hagler was not hitting Hearns at all, and when Hearns pushed back Marvin would stumble a little from fatigue.. People don't see it because Hearns himself was exhausted and his legs were giving out, but Marvin was tired. Had Hearns had a few rounds to land his jab and even his broken right which landed a little, I am just saying the ref might have stopped the fight.
     
  15. Ronnie Raygun

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    I just watched the third rd
    Hagler not tired
    Marvin cut not bothering him he was hitting hearns you saw hearns jerri juice curl fly out the ring
    He only miss two punchs
    Dont see where hearns pushes marvin Marvin staggers
    The only one that stagger before hgktfo was hearns
    By the way in the beging of the third rd tommy started to box move jab marvin took his time and khtfo
     
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