Hagler of hearns fight vs Benn of barkley ft,?

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  1. Ronnie Raygun

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    Marv was on a mission for god
     
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  2. Clinton

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    Lol
     
  3. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Need to look at this objectively. Hearns did hurt hagler there for a bit and then he fractured his right hand in multiple places shortly after on an uppercut to haglers dome.. Fight is over there. Hagler does land good shots early before that and then starts to clearly take over after that.. as hearns' right power is done for the night .. to ignore a significant injury like this would be the same as saying, well Pep dislocated his shoulder against saddler at the end of the 7th, in their 3rd fight, but that didn't have anything to do with the fight him not coming out for the 8th .. it's unrealistic thinking
     
  4. Clinton

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    He hit Hagler. Hagler took a step back and then came forward to continue his onslaught. That's what happened. I would say that's pretty objective.
     
  5. surfinghb

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    I just watched it again .. he takes a lil more time than that as he regroups on the inside as well without throwing .. but that's not the point I'm referring too. I'm saying that by not recognizing the multiple fractures is not being realistic .imo .. of having a huge impact on the fight
     
  6. Clinton

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    And throughout the rest of the fight, he's still throwing right hands, even when he tried to box and move in the 2nd. Marv was right in his wheelhouse and he STILL couldn't keep him off with that punch. It's quite safe to say that Marvin's chin and dome are quite tougher than Tommy's power and hands. Tommy hit Marvin so hard that he BROKE HIS OWN HAND. Think about that please. It's as if Tommy has a built in excuse for breaking his hand after blasting Hagler's head.
     
  7. PernellSweetPea

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    the video is there to see from the beginning of round 3 to the moment Steele calls time out. Jabs are landing which is why the cut on his forehead opened up, leading to the time out.
     
  8. PernellSweetPea

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    not an excuse, but had Thomas Hearns had more room to punch in a slower pace, he would not have broken his hand as easily. The southpaw style also contributed to that on the straight punches, rather than a punch coming more from the side. I don't think the right hand was effective in round 2 or 3. I never said that, but the punches landing were still swelling Marvin's face and causing the cut to open up. I still think in a rematch Hearns punch would have tested Marvin's chin in a much different way than the first fight.
     
  9. surfinghb

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    Ya but apparently I'm learning that a fractured hand had no impact on the fight and that is was a built in excuse for losing and you are able to retain the same power .. so I checked with willie pep and he also said that his separated shoulder was a built in excuse for losing to saddler so I stand corrected..
     
  10. PernellSweetPea

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    Well, for Hearns it was a big deal since his bread and butter punch was the right hand. When most fighters lose, there is some excuse which comes up anyway, so I agree with you on that.
     
  11. PernellSweetPea

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    That was not pacing himself, he was arm weary, as the HBO commentary with Ray Leonard said at the end of round 2. Hagler was tired.
     
  12. Clinton

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    And then Marvin knocked him the **** out lol.
     
  13. Clinton

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    Hagler was sooooo tired he knocked Tommy the **** out. You have no idea how ridiculous you sound. The way you make it out, Tommy was winning the fight, which couldnt be farther from the truth. He was getting pummeled.
     
  14. Clinton

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    Funny you mention that because you make it sound like had Tommy paced himself more and utilized his jab, he would have beaten Marvin, lol. You cant have it both ways.
     
  15. Clinton

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    Yes, an excuse. But anyway, why would Hagler have given Hearns more space for Tommy to throw punches when he knew he could withstand Tommy's blows and blast him out? Why, by some miracle would Hearns' punches have hurt Hagler more? You are really out of your mind.
     
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