Think about what youre writing. And think about this. Tommy hit Marvin so hard, he broke his hand but still couldnt take Marvin out with that punch. CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT, lol?
Whats absolutely hilarious is that in his penultimate fight when his reflexes and speed were obviously diminished, Hagler took big punching Mugabi's bombs without effect early in the fight, and then proceeding to pummel Mugabi. But according to Mag, err pernellsweetpea, Hagler wouldnt have been able withstand Tommy in a rematch even though Tommy BROKE HIS HAND ON HAGLER'S HEAD in their 1st, lol. Only in ESB.
again you are not on track with what the conversation is about.. This is about Marvin being tired, which is separate from Hearns being tired and knocked out. Marvin was very tired this I am sure of, the same way I am sure the cut on Marvin's forehead was made by Hearns mouthpiece in round one.
Mugabi fight, Hagler was one year inactive and still took a few punches mainly the left uppercut in I think round 6 and he took them well, but John Mugabi was not the fast puncher Hearns was or the jabber. That fight was Mugabi doing better than people expected because Hagler was so rusty. Marvin wasn't even throwing his left hand straight until the later rounds. And you are not reading what I said would happen in the rematch with Hearns, which is only my idea. I can only repeat myself so much. Maybe someone else can read what I said would possibly happen and explain it.
The site is lagging tonight for my computer. I think you are confusing comments I said about what might happen in the rematch opposed to what happened in the first I don't think I am making it sound like that. I think it is very clear what I am saying. Forget about the Hearns aspect of this and look at Marvin, who was tiring a lot. I said had Hearns had a few more rounds of energy at that point Hagler might have been in trouble since he was getting very tired and missing punches. Obviously Hearns didn't have the energy, I just meant Hagler had punched himself out pretty much. That sentence there sums up what I am saying. The Richard Steele time out is what woke Hagler up to get Tommy out of there right at that moment. How did I make it sound like he was winning. I don't know if you are trying to read what I am saying, or picking parts of what I am saying to try and prove a point unrelated to what we are talking about. The point I am making is about Hagler being tired, and had Tommy or any fight had a few more rounds Hagler might have been all but spent. That is just an opinion of mine. You cannot argue with someone's opinion, especially when I know this fight so well.
the time frame I am talking about is the start of round 3 to the point when Steele called time out. Hagler was looking very tired and missing many punches, and Tommy was exhausted and still landing. The point was and read this carefully. The point is had Tommy at that point had more energy to last a few more rounds and get it together, he could have kept jabbing and swelled Marvin up and somehow got a TKO. That is not saying I think it would happen, I am talking about Hagler's fatigue at that point, which you do not seem to see. Tommy obviously did not have the energy, but Hagler was more tired than people think and the gamble Hagler took expending that much energy could have backfired had Tommy had more stamina at that time.
I have no idea what fight you were watching, but when Steele called time to check the cut, Hagler was landing the more effective blows up until that point. Tommy had been staggered in the 2nd and was rubbery in the 3rd. And Marvin was even out jabbing Tommy in the 2nd when Tommy had tried to box more. Marvin was far fresher and clearheaded in the 3rd than Tommy was. If you want to deny that, feel free.
Obviously you don't know this fight as well as you think you do. You wrote that Marvin was tired and if Tommy had more stamina, he would have beaten Marvin, completely ignoring the fact that Marvin was PUMMELING Tommy. Some opinion. Carry on.
"The Richard Steele time out is what woke Hagler up to get Tommy out of there right at that moment." That statement alone infers you're saying that Tommy was winning that fight, which wasn't what was happening. Are you ****ing serious? Another excuse from you. No surprise there. I just watched the 3rd again. The blood check was for 10 seconds. Hearns was rubbery before and after the blood check. That pause actually helped Tommy. The fight lasted about a minute more and then Tommy was laying on his back, knocked the **** out. He got up and beat the count, but Steele waved it off as Tommy was clearly unable to defend himself and was out of it. While Hagler was celebrating, Tommy had to be held up by his seconds because he was in such bad shape. You clearly don't know the fight as well as you say you do.
Yes I completely understand that. Again, I never said Hearns wins the fight with a non fractured hand or would win in a rematch.. My comment was ..imo.. that his fractured hand in multiple spots hurt his power and his performance going forward. You disagree, that is fine .. fair enough
Anybody who has to even think about this knows nothing about boxing. Marvin demolishes Nigel within 6 rounds, even Benn's one major strength (punch power) would be void here because his shots would have little to no effect on the iron chinned Hagler. Benn vs Hearns of the Hagler fight, now that's an interesting fight to discuss.