Hagler/SRL

Nooooooooo....

 

I had it Hagler 7/5... As for the rematch, well Leonard made it clear in the post fight interview he would only fight again if Tyson came down to 160lbs.

And we all know Ray is a man of his word and thus never stepped foot into the Ring again.

 

Watched it again just a couple of weeks ago and I fell for the Leonard flash, think I had it either 8-4 or 7-5 for Leonard.

It brings up an interesting question. If two boxers land an identical number of punches of equal power, BUT one fighter is made to look foolish (e.g by missing by yards at a time), how do you score the round??

 

Judges call; you can seperate them on aggression, defensive skill or entertainment there is no set rule. But these intangables only come into play if the scenario you laid out above happens.

 

Hagler retired, making a rematch impossible.

 

So he should have, he was shot...in the sparring sessions before the fight he was being beaten up by nobodies.

 

I agree. He lost the first fight and would have lost the second by a bigger margin.

 

Sounds like the epitome of the Hagler fan who couldn't accept that his scorecard didn't have Marv ahead, then re-scores to see what he wants to see. :hey

 

The great George Benton once said that fighters/fans are usually objective the first time they see a fight. Then when they/their hero loses on points they watch again and see "what they want to see", noticing their/or their favourites good work and "failing to spot what the other guy does".



By the way, he said this, initially, in relation to Evander Holyfield's acceptance that he was beaten by the better man in the first Bowe fight and subsequently his 'scorecard' when he' watched it again and again, which eventually had himself ahead by a point. :huh



So, in a nutshell, your first card is the real one, at least it appears a tad more objective. :good

 

I didn't want to get involved in this thread as it's been done to death of course but for the record i watched it in 1987 (the night after on ITV) and had Leonard winning but only scored it for the first (and only) time in 1992. My card had Leonard by 116-114. I won't score it again as it could come at a time when i'd just read an interview with either a) Hagler moaning again or b) Leonard being an overbearing, arrogant ***** again. Either scenario could influence my card, so 116-114 it is forever. :good

 

I've watched this one a few times but I think it was 7-5 for SRL.

 

Prime time as well... Imagine now ITV putting out an entire fight between to non Heavyweight Americans on a prime time slot on a week day evening?

To misquote Don King:

"Only in the 80's!"