Hagler-Trindad at MW

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  1. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Trinidad on his best night moves up from
    Jr. MW to challenge the Marvelous One.

    How long does it go....either way?
     
  2. radianttwilight

    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hagler embaresses him, I'm afraid.

    His style is all wrong for Trinidad at 160.

    Top 3 at the weight chin + his fundamentals were far superior to 160 Trinidad's.

    I don't see how Trinidad can win this, actually.
     
  3. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    if they fought 10 times Tito would get koed ten times.
    Hagler is all wrong for Trinidad.
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Trinidad was a very durable fighter who was never really stopped in his prime, so I'd say his chances of taking Hagler the distance ranges from fair to reasonable. In addition, he possesed a good amount of handspeed and was a brave fighter on the inside. The problem is, he was tad too brave for his own good, which could prove dangerous for a fighter rising up in weight against Marvin Hagler of all people. Of course, most of Marvin's most notable fights came against men rising in weight including an aging Duran, Thomas Hearns and an inactive Leonard, all of whom troubled or even beat him.

    Trinidad's chances of giving Hagler a great fight and even upsetting him are pretty strong in my opinion, but his over zealous bravery could be his undoing. Therefore, I will pick Marvin to take a close decision, perhaps even scoring a knockdown or two along the way.
     
  5. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hagler walks through his **** like mugabi and stops him around 10 or 11
     
  6. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler is too much for Trinidad,Size,strength,power. Trinidad couldn't keep Hagler off, much like Hearns. Plus Trinidad doesn't seem to carry the punch up to Middleweight. & He feels the punches much more at 160. Trinidad's effectiveness is vastly reduced at the higher weights, which seems odd because he was a fairly large Welterweight.
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Felix had a chin. Mugabi didn't.
     
  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    B-Hop had humiliated and angered trinidad prior to their fight. Trinidad felt a need to score a KO in order to vindicate himself, look good to his countrymen, and embarass Bernard in return. I know people like to call him a blown up WW, mostly by B-Hop detractors looking to diminish his wins. But Trinidad looked like a MW to me in defeating Vargas and Joppy..he showed a MW chin and even MW power and certainly appears to belong!

    I don't think hagler would upset trinidad as much as B-Hop prior to the fight. So I don't think Trinidad would be all hell bent on destroying him, if that plan was not working. I still see hagler winning this fight, but would call it a UD...trinidad continuosly gets sold short!
     
  9. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler didn't humiliate his opponents, But he was a very intimidating fighter. His motto was "Destruct & Destroy" If anything Trinidad would be slightly intimidated by Hagler & most likely wouldn't go all out. Trinidad has the boxing tools to last the distance. But it's up to Hagler how hard he wants to press the issue. If hagler attacks like against Hearns, Trinidad falls early. If Hagler waits like against Duran, it will go the distance.
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Agreed, I think it also pertinant to say that Trinidad was likely past his best against Hopkins, and Longhorn clearly stated that Felix would be in his prime for this fight. I think Tito could go the distance, and take a fair number of rounds in the process. Marvin was one of the best middleweights of all time, but he wasn't invincible, and Trinidad would likely be one of his best opponents.
     
  11. gregor

    gregor Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Trinidad has no chance at all. How? Trading punches with Hagler would be bad idea for anybody, and especially for someone with somewhat suspect chin.

    And outboxing... well, Sugar Ray Leonard did it (barely), but it definitely doesn't mean anyone can do it.
     
  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    How does a guy who was only stopped once in 45 fights by a late round stoppage to a big puncher have a suspect chin?
     
  13. pmfan

    pmfan Active Member Full Member

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    SRL was a much, much better fighter in every way than Trinidad. There's no comparison. Hagler may have "lost" (I thought he won) to maybe the second greatest welterweight of all time. No shame in that. He would chew up and spit out Trinidad, as would Leonard, Hearns and Duran.
     
  14. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler KOs him in 6, not even competitive. Tito was all about his power and strength, well not only does Marvin have a chin of iron but he hits harder and was stronger.
     
  15. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IMO Hagler would systematically break Trinidad down by 9th rd TKO. Trinidad will fight with alot of heart, but Hagler is too strong and tough.