Hagler-Trindad at MW

Against Trinidad he won't have to take chances to win, he'll be happy to outpoint him without making it a war. Trinidad might have not the sturdiest chin out there, but he's durable enough to take anything Hagler has, Marvin didn't hit very hard and his handspeed wasn't fast enough to be catching Tito by surprise for it to end in a KO. No matter how sturdy your chin is, you won't want to take many chances against Trinidad also, he hit hard and sharp enough for that. I'll go so far as to compare his mid-range punching to that of Joe Louis, although not equal, but pretty close nevertheless.

 

Oh Senya, I do believe I've had a similar debate with you before. You are so stubborn. Hagler was no Nigel Benn but he could hit plenty hard enough when he set down on his punches. 52 stoppages from 62 wins, I mean come on ! Hagler was no Sugar Ray Leonard but he definitely had comfortably above average speed, coupled with superb reflexes and timing during his peak years. If Hopkins managed to dominate Tito and, knock him down and out, then Hagler could to.

 

Nigel Benn wasn't that hard of a puncher either, I don't think he hit any harder than Hagler, to say the truth (from some 30 or so Benn's fights I've seen). Above average punching power, but not really exceptional. I haven't seen Hagler show anything but average handspeed in all his fights I've seen. Neither have I seen anything special about his reflexes, good, but not exceptional. And he showed his timing against poor boxers mostly.

Hopkins was a better counter-puncher than Hagler, while having about the same punching power as Marvin. He didn't want to take many chances either against Tito, and neither would Hagler when he figured he could outbox him instead.

 

Nigel Benn not that hard of a puncher? Nothing special about Hagler's handspeed, reflexes or timing? Wow !! :smoke

 

Bhwhahahahahahahaha! :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

 

That was because Hagler had to fight that way against a tall, lanky, brilliant outside boxer like Tommy.

Trinidad doesn't have those boxing skills like Tommy, but he did prove himself to be a magnet for Wright's right jab. Granted, Tito was probably better in 2001 than 2005, but Hagler's best punch was his jab.

Hagler would outbox Trinidad behind the jab and stop him late.

 

Well, tell me how many Benn's fights have you seen? He was a ferocious fighter, but more about quantity than quality.

 

How many? I think all of them...and at least two from actually in the arena. Next question?

 

I don't know if you're talking to me or the other guy, but anyway, I have 26 of his fights and he is one of the hardest punchers I've seen. Go tell the fighters he fought that he only had 'above average' punching power.

 

Ok, next question is tell me a couple of his most impressive clean KO wins, beside the Logan victory. Most of the time he needed several KD's, and was beating the opponent into the ground, rather than requiering one clean punch.

 

Tito, IMO, would end up the same as most of Hagler's challengers... Generally Hagler defended against aggressive boxers who brought their big pay off punch to the party.

When they finally landed it and had a little success they'd open up and this is when they became vulnerable. Tito would be unable to resist (just like most punchers) and after landing one or two of his best, what would come back would be too much for him to eat all at one sitting.

Trinidad wouldn't have beaten Hamsho, Minter or Antuofermo.

 

You're swinging wildly now.....

 

can hardly bring myself to answer the thread due to thinking about few posts back....BENN DIDNT HAVE A DIG....WTF

He could rattle your ancestors down to there socks.....:!:

sorry where were we, oh yes Hagler Trinidad, its nearly as crazy...

Hagler KO.

 

Is that why he spent two years studying Trinidad's style before he even fought him?

 

I don't know if this is true, but it shouldn't subtract from Hopkins' win.

He systematically broke him down in an embarassing fashion and then stopped him. It was one-sided from the start.