Hagler V Foster.. A brutal ending for marvin?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    If Hagler had stepped up to lght heavy and the reigning champ of the time had been Bob foster, would we have been looking at the destruction of the granite chinned middle weight? This would surely be a massive hurdle for marvin, do you see a stoppage or is there any chance he sees the final bell? And what tactics do you see marvin employing in this fight to take on foster? Throwing Hagler in to the deep end here.
     
  2. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I imagine that he would be forced to employ the same tactics he used against Hearns. You know, making it a brawl by fighting on the inside, and crowding Foster in order to deprive him of his reach advantage. But it won't be as easy against Foster for these reasons.

    1. Foster was more technically sound defensively than Hearns
    2. Foster would be carrying greater power due to the weight.
    3. Foster's chin doesn't seem as vulnerable as Hearn's since he tended to get up from knockdowns and win.


    Three of his KO Losses were against HWs Joe Frazier, Mohamed Ali and Ernie Terrel.
     
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  3. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Could Hagler withstand Fosters punches? Who knows for sure? Marvin was rocked by the likes of Hearns and Mugabi and had a bogus knockdown against Roldan called against him but I can't ever remember him been really hurt or seriously staggered in his whole career so maybe he could take his iron chin up with him to Light Heavyweight.

    After all who would have thought that cruiserweight Evander Holyfield could move up to heavyweight and take his almost impenetrable chin and resilience up with him, even against heavy hitting monsters like Bowe, Lewis,Tyson and Foreman?
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Foster would stop him Minter hurt Hagler so what would a much harder puncher like Foster do I know Hagler started walking through Hearns`s punches after being hurt by the first right that hit him but I feel Hagler would so much slower being bulky because of his short height that Foster would get through early like Frazier vs Foreman even if it`s not as black and white as that Foster will take Hagler`s shots a lot better than Marvin would take his. What do you think of Hearns vs Foster, I feel maybe Hearns would have a better shot at Light Heavy than Hagler! Hagler v Hearns at light heavy?! I mean Hearns was a 2 time light heavy champ! I don`t even know if Hagler would have beaten the inferior Barkley at light heavy those guys were just naturally bigger than Hagler, he was too short the only thing that would of helped him was his reach in my humble opinion.
     
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  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Minter hurt Hagler in their short one-sided encounter!
     
  6. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Not seen Hagler V minter for a few years now, but recall Alan catching him with a left hook? that seems to briefly shook him. And Sibson hurt him briefly, I remember marvin saying to that effect.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes ,I see Foster dropping and stopping Marvin.ala D*ck Tiger.
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Good points ken. Holyfield stood up to some serious hammer.
     
  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    One of a few lght heavy s I see really managing to put some serious hurt on Hagler.
     
  10. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Marvin had a cast iron chin .. none of those guys buckled his knees or really rocked him .. at 160 he was close to indestructible .. however fighting Foster at 175 is another animal .. Foster was a monster puncher at 175 and he's a whole other challenge.
     
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  11. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At lightheavy, Tommy beat Hill and that other fellow whose name i cant remember-im drinking heavily now. Foster would have put him in a coma, and i cant think of any version of Tommy that beats anything close to prime Hags. But then again Marvin never moved up to 175, so we'll never now. But i still think prime Marvin beats 168 pound Quicksilver.
     
  12. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thing is about prime Marvin Hagler is that he was a terrific moving boxer puncher with excellent footwork. Would Foster catch him?
     
  13. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foster being technically sound would be not being knocked out when it mattered at heavyweight. Hearns moved up more than Foster and won titles moving up 4 and then 5 in different divisions, going all the way to cruiserweight. Frazier and others knocked him out when he moved up and Hearns was only 2 times, and had a much more accomplished and experienced moving up situation. Hearns got up from Kinchen and Delgado and Leonard scored knockdowns, as well as Benitez, which was more of a push. But this post is rather uninformed. Foster was more technically sound at what weight? 175? Offense is defense. should have used that defensive technique to last against Frazier and others at the higher weight and win titles higher like Hearns did.
     
  14. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hill is a problem for some guys like Hagler, His legs. Virgil had good legs which were not help since Hearns jab was what stopped his moving.
     
  15. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearns at 168 wins a decision over Hagler, and Hearns at 175 knocks out Hagler.