Hagler v Ray Robinson

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by PToporki, Jan 22, 2009.


  1. PToporki

    PToporki New Member Full Member

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    This poll i inspired by Fight Night Rd. 3. I was commanding a middleweight fight with a much faster sugar ray, when I fell finally to a few of my buddies body shots from hagler in the 11th. Who do you think wins this middleweight fight if it were real?
     
  2. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler was the best MW ever. But, I think that Rob, in top form, could eek out a decision win. This is a case of the best MW of all time vs. arguably the best of all time.
     
  3. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    A prime Hagler would give Robinson all sorts of problems,many good judges rate him number 1 ,Mickey Duff a shrewd judge beleives Hagler beats SRR.I think they would split a series.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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  6. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    As long as its the pre Turpin MWT Robinson then I got Robinson on points.
     
  7. PToporki

    PToporki New Member Full Member

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    sugar ray only lost to turpin the first time because he was exhausted due to poor pre-fight living conditions. he knocked him out in the return bout to win back the mw belt. joey maxim fight was a fluke. it wasn't until after his first retirement that he really dropped off IMO
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I have an 86 year old freind who is a huge fan of both, and saw both fight live. According to him Haglar/Robinson would be fight of the decade in any decade.
     
  9. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    I think maybe Haglers size would play a part in this. He is more of a natural middleweight than SRR was. Hagler by SD.
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    An old work mate ,now gone told me he saw the second Turpin Robinson fight ,[he was in the RN],he said it wasn't that exciting in the early rounds , but it sure warmed up when Ray landed that big right.I watched the fight on ESPN last night,and though Turpin avoided a lot of the final onslaught he was caught solid with at least 5 punches at the end ,so it was a timely stoppage ,imo.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    SRR was bothered more by tall guys ,Hagler at 5 9 was a couple of inches shorter than Ray ,he ws probably stronger ,but wasn't a "bully " in the ring,and Ray fought lots of strong guys ,like Fullmer,Lamotta etc.
     
  12. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    I'd favor Robinson to take a close decision. Really the only middleweight I pick to beat Robinson on his best night at 160 is Monzon, and that would certainly have been a winnable fight for SRR as well.
     
  13. JIm Broughton

    JIm Broughton Active Member Full Member

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    I pick Hagler in one of the best fights of all time. If Robinson was faster it wasn't by much and Marvin's hands moved plenty quick enough. Hagler's defense was better imo as he kept a tighter guard and employed better head movement. Plus Marvin was a natural MW and was probably stronger at MW than SRR. Other than that there's not really much that seperates the two. This fight will go to a decision as I can't see either one being ko'ed but I think Hagler would probably take it. Admittedly I'm a little biased having grown up during Hagler's reign but that,s the way I see it.
     
  14. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whoa! Robinson's hands were MUCH faster than Hagler's. I'm not saying Hagler doesnt win, but he was in NO WAY as fast as Ray. Not even close.
     
  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    It depends on which SRR shows up, the one that `massacred` JLM in 51 would beat any version of Hagler IMO & dare I say even TKO him in the 14th or 15th..... I say UD tho out of respect for Hagler`s toughness.