Hagler vs best that followed him ...

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I've been watch a bit of Hagler lately and feel without doubt he was an all time great .. I'm curious how you feel about how'd he have done against four great middleweights that followed him:

    Nunn, Toney, Hopkins and Jones ... all could box, had great athleticism and terrific speed .. each posed different challenges ...

    Thoughts ?
     
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  2. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I think he beats Hopkins and Nunn, but Toney and Roy Jones are 50\50.
     
  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hagler never really fought any slick boxers in his title reign, and boxers/movers seemed to be the most troublesome for Hagler in his early career. So it would've been interesting to see how he would cope with the likes of Nunn, Toney, Jones.
     
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  4. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he wears down Nunn, outworks Toney in a close one, and loses to BHOP and Jones via decision.

    I realize a lot of folks on here will disagree with my picks against BHOP and Jones but BHOP was a master at fighting southpaws and had the size, strength and versatility to beat Hagler. Not saying it's 100% but I could see him winning. Jones was simply an athletic freak that we have never seen and I wouldn't beat against him. His combination of speed, skill and power would be a major problem for Hagler.

    All this said, I was ahuge Hagler fan and count him as one the greatest champions of the sport.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I think Jones and Hopkins decision him and he beats the rest.
     
  6. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Although nothing would be easy in any of these fights, I have Hagler outpointing Toney and Hopkins. He would be outpointed by Jones. The interesting fight would be with Nunn. Nunn, like Donald Curry had a short prime but that prime was glorious. If Nunn is fighting at his very best he outpoints a highly frustrated Hagler. Anything other than his best and Hagler pus him down for the ten count.
     
  7. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very tough road for him but he sweeps it
     
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  8. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jones has the best chance because of his speed. the rest arent even worth mentioning

    Someone here, thinks way too much of Hopkins but we wont mention him
     
  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prime Marvin goes 4-0 .
     
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  10. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Marvin v Roy is a toss up,the others lose to the great Hagler
     
  11. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Not sure about RJJ hard to envision that fight. Toney might be one of the worst match ups you could give Hagler- Toney would most likely box his way to a win with a lot of dead even rounds.

    Marv couldn’t try and dog Toney out of there when it got tough- James was the ****ing man and ate shots from HW’s without wincing. it’s a boxing match and Hagler doesn’t get a say. Marvin’s alternative path is blocked by a chin of steel and a wall of old school defence.

    Close fight but yeah I think Toney is the favourite here- not a huge one but he is the favourite none the less in my opinion.
     
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  12. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    I also don’t like Hagler chances against someone that fights the way Hopkins does being so much bigger. I’d take a hop by a 7-5 type win. I don’t think Hagler could get off enough or impose himself the right way often enough- the size difference would be noticeable and a big part of the equation here.
     
  13. BCS8

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    He might potentially beat all four. He has routes to victory against all four.

    Then again, a flat version of Hagler might lose to any of the four.
     
  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    I don’t know about RJJ- however I think if they all fought Hagler (excluding RJJ) once Marv would come out 2-1. I don’t think Nunn has enough for the Marvellous one but Toney and Hopkins most likely outpoint Hagler.
     
  15. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    I just don’t see Hagler overcoming Hopkins or Toney. What are his routes to victory there?