Hagler vs best that followed him ...

Hagler is faster and more busy than Hopkins. I feel that Hopkins trying to pick his moments to shine might backfire if Hagler gets off first.

Toney's workrate has often been underwhelming. I think that a busy fighter like Hagler would make him work at a pace that he didn't like. Toney might well have problems dealing with a versatile fighter like Hagler who was always switching things up and looking for ways to bother his opponent. Toney drew with or squeaked by fighters that I have no doubt Hagler would have dealt with. Let's not forget that with different judges Toney might have a record much worse than it is.

I reckon Hopkins is a tougher challenge than Toney because of his consistency. He always came in 100%

 

I think he struggles with Jones the most. But, if he could get him on the ropes I can see how Jones would struggle too. He beats the other three IMO.

 

Well- with Toney you can just look at the Jirov fight for seeing how busy James can be when pushed and Hagler will push like you say. Toney squeaked by at times but this is theoretically his best night. I think McCallum is as good as Hagler and a better match up against James and he fell short-just.

 

Hey Journey I always like when we agree. I think Hopkins is getting underrated here and think he could produce an atg performance.

 

He beats them all with the exception of Jones maybe but in a 15 round bout I would favor Hagler over Jones.
Hagler was a smooth boxer and people forget that because they watch his bouts vs Mugabi/Hearns but Hagler could box and switch hit.
Hopkins is not going to rough up Hagler on the inside and hes not going to outbox Hagler from the outside.
Toney? He had a hard time with southpaw Reggie Johnson and Michael Nunn so I think Haglers southpaw jab and work rate is going to bother Toney.
Nunn would pose some problems with his speed but in a 15 round bout he gets stopped. But if Hagler fought Nunn say in 1986/87 Nunn could have maybe outboxed that version.
Roy would sweep the first couple of rounds and to win Hagler would need it for 15 rounds. 12 rounds it might be Hagler coming on but runs out of time.

 

We profoundly disagree then

 

All represent very tough fights for Marvin but I see him prevailing.

 

Marvin's one of my favorites, but I just can't see him beating Roy. I've said this many times, prime Roy is nigh on invincible IMO.
He can beat all the rest, though it's not guaranteed.

 

Take it further. What does Hagler do to improve upon what McCallum did?

 

Prime Hagler goes 4-0

 

I think he beats Jones,and Hopkins.the other two I would favour him ,but they would be close.

 

Toney was at his best when a fighter came at him and left openings for his great counterpunching. Hagler usually didn’t fight like that. He usually boxed and used good movement, and would try to make Toney come after him. They’re two of the toughest fighters of all-time so nobody is getting dropped. Hagler wins a 7-5, 8-4 type fight.

Hopkins-Hagler is a toss-up to me. Hopkins does have a size advantage as he was 3 inches taller and made 160 during the day before weigh-in procedures. They were both adept at fighting in different styles. Hopkins had a lot of experience against lefties and was good at nullifying opponent’s best weapons.

Nunn would be competitive but I think Hagler gets to him enough times and wins a tough one.

While Roy was somewhat inexperienced at 160 (most of the southpaws he faced were at 168-175), I think his prime began in 94’, maybe with the Tate fight. Roy had a terrific mix of power and ridiculous speed, and was naturally bigger. I don’t know, I think RJJ might win this one.

The 86-87 Hagler loses to all 4 of them.

 

Who tf knows