What is it about Calzaghe that stirs up such hot debate? Have any of you noticed that 99 page monster of a thread in the general forum? http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=489137
Dream on. None of those you mentioned come close to hitting as hard as Benn, and a better example of his chin was how he took all the so called huge puncher McClellan had to offer, and sent him home proper fvcked. Oh, and don't claim McClellan was a hype job, because he certainly wasn't seen that way when he was sent over to Britain for the fight.
I actually like Benn and found him an exciting fighter. Just didn't think he was that good. Get him in the later rounds and he flatlined pretty much although his fight w McCellem was tremendous .. AS far as Benn against Hagler, he would have been crushed by Marvin after five or six rounds .. that being said, Benn was a dangerous man for sure ..
46 - 0 might have a lot to do with it. The Hagler freaks just throw his " name " into the hat based on the fact that he had what they claim is a great career. 1. Does anyone seriously think that former Lightweight Duran would have lasted 15 rounds with Ray Robinson? And more importantly been winning after 13 rounds? 2. Does anyone seriously think that a 33 year old Robinson would have lost to a career Welter who had been out of the ring for almost 3 years? 3. Can anyone seriously think that Robinson would be just a referees decision away from getting stopped due to cuts by the former Welter Tommy Hearns inside 2 rounds? Yet this guy is going to give Calzaghe a one sided beating according to his fanboys. Yeah, and pigs fly.
Mate, you know **** all and aren't worth talking to. Calzaghe isn't even great. Hagler, Hearns, Briscoe would all flatten him. You are a troll, anyway so just **** off somewhere else.
2 choices. 1. Go fvck your worthless self. 2. Go fvck your slut of a sister again. You dirty American, or wannabe American kunt. Great you moronic filth. What is great? Yanks think that dirty ********** vermin Michael Jackson was great. The rest of the world doesn't That two bob piece of **** Hagler is not entitled to be mentioned in the same breath as Calzaghe in a h2h meeting. He's just another over inflated Yank *****.
Tough enough for Hagler dick riding goons, that try to rewrite history. Fact. He lost to a Welter who hadn't fought in almost 3 years. Fact. He was almost stopped by a Welter inside 2 rounds, on cuts. Fact. He was nearly outpointed by a former Lightweight. Fact. He was only 29 when Duran who was 32 and an 82 fight veteran almost out pointed him. Fact. He was still only 33 when he got beat by Leonard and turned it in. So tell us **** for brains. When did Calzaghe ever LOOK like losing to a former Light Middle? When did ever LOOK like losing to a former Welter? Because that is what it equates to. There is another thread asking whether or not Hagler fed on smaller guys. Though not strictly true, he should have done a lot better against them than the 3 instances above if he was as great as his fanboys portray him.
He looked **** enough against Hopkins and Jones to convince me he was a notch below greatness. He obviously had something, but imo he didn't ooze class. I would love to say he did cos my dad was Welsh so I have no axe to grind.
1. He was 36 and already planning his retirement by then. 2. Hopkins fought like a dog in the fight, trying everything from clinching ( which Cortez was quite happy for him to do, but A FEW MONTHS previously constantly stopped Hatton from doing ), fouling, claiming fouls from perfectly legal body shots, and any other typical Hopkins bull****. The executioner? Don't make me f&*£$!g laugh. What does he do, bore opponents to death? 3. You claim not to have an agenda, then say he looked **** against Jones. That is either a blatant lie, or I'm sorry but you just don't know what you are looking at. He ridiculed and humiliated Jones, actually laying his face on Jones gloves, and defying him to punch him, then slapping him behind his guard. Of course the excuse mongers will say Jones was shot to **** by that time, but the fool is still fighting 5 years later, and has won 4 and lost 3 since. If he was that shot he shouldn't be able to beat anyone other than novices. Also with the general consensus on ESB that Calzaghe was slightly better than useless, how come Jones lost to him at all?
Hagler by stoppage. Were talking about a prime Marvin Hagler. Not the slower plodding verison of the mid 80s. He was quicker than many people realize and Marvin had superior footwork. I just think were talking about a very good fighter vs a Great ONE!
If you want to talk about a great fighter look no further than the Duran who forced the naturally , bigger, stronger, younger Hagler to pull the fight out of the bag in the last 2 rounds. And that was in 83 when Hagler was 29 ffs. Superior footwork? Cobblers. Calzaghe by very easy wide UD.