Hagler vs Leonard 1984 (15 rounds)

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  1. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How would this fight have panned out? I have respect for both fighters, but I have to admit Hagler was my favourite boxer when I was young. I was never a great Leonard fan, but he has to be one of the greatest natural talents ever, and may have had the style to give Hagler fits.

    Overall, I will go for Hagler on points over 15 rounds. How do you see it, and what type of fight do you think would have unfolded?
     
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  2. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler W 15 Leonard. Leonard had been off for two years. When he did come back he looked less than impressive against Kevin Howard at 154 lbs. He was even dropped in the fight. I think he knew he couldn't beat Hagler after that performance, and retired again. Later on, Leonard admitted he was doing coke around that time. I believe he would have been more focused for Hagler than Howard but the rust, combined with Hagler still being near his peak, would have resulted in a Leonard loss.
     
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  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah hard to disagree with this. Howard was a gatekeeper level opponent and Leonard failed to impress.
     
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  4. Mendoza

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    1984? Hagler UD.
     
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  5. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler UD, with a possible knockdown late.Leonard wasn't ready for him quite yet.
     
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  6. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Hagler by KO.... This Hagler was light years better than the one Leonard fought in 87.
     
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  7. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wasn't ready for him... he still lost when he was "ready" for him imo
     
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  8. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After 1985, Marvin was strongly faded, Ray knew this, and took advantage.
     
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  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    perhaps, but that doesn't somehow erase the fact that Leonard himself was past prime, inactive, and at the mercy of moving up in weight after years of being out of the ring.
     
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  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even in their 1987 fight I think Hagler over 15 rounds carries too much stamina, is too big and breaks Leonard down and wins.
     
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  11. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    When you consider that when they did fight, and Hagler was well past it Dundee can clearly be heard screaming " Only 6 more minutes son keep moving " I doubt he would have made the 15th against a relentless Hagler, who was only just starting to decline.
     
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  12. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler by knockout early. While Leonard looks for an early opening, Hagler pitches. A strong jab discombobulates him, destroying his equilibrium, and a right hook to the temple (the soft part of the head), and leonard's legs turn to mush, another right hook and it's over. Easy ass payday
     
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  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why the hell would anyone think this one's going the distance? :huh
     
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  14. DrBanzai

    DrBanzai Active Member Full Member

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    Hagler won the first fight so who cares.
     
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  15. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    see? no one can even answer the question.
     
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