Hagler vs Leonard scorecard

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  1. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here is what i wrote the last time i scored it.

    Marvin Hagler v Sugar Ray Leonard


    Round 1: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 2: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 3: 10-10 Even
    Round 4: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 5: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 6: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 7: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 8: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 9: 10-10 Even
    Round 10: 10-9 Hagler
    Round 11: 10-10 Even
    Round 12: 10-9 Hagler

    Total: 116-115 Hagler (actual scores: 115-113 Hagler, 115-113 Leonard and a baffling 118-110 for Leonard for a split win)

    I found this once again to be a good fight, but also a chess match and a study on round-stealing. Not saying anything is wrong with that because its up to the judge to be able to separate the wheat from the chaff. Hagler was steady, but whenever he gave Leonard just that little bit of space, he gave Leonard license to kill with one of his eye-catching flurries. Most of the time not even a flurry, but it would grab the audience. Even from 30 years ago I remember that bolo-turned body shot from Leonard and laughed then when the crowd went wild. I recall then saying, "It was a low-blow and they're cheering!" Anyways, I did feel Leonard put in a remarkable performance, but felt Hagler took it with solid, steady work. A good close fight.
     
  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Leonard vs Marvin Hagler

    1 Leonard
    2 Leonard
    3 Leonard
    4 Leonard
    5 Hagler
    6 Leonard
    7 Hagler
    8 Hagler
    9 Hagler
    10 Hagler
    11 Leonard
    12 Hagler

    114-114 Draw

    I thought it was a pretty easy fight to score except rounds 10 and 11 which could determine who wins this fight depending on how you score them rounds.

    But i thought rounds 1-4 and round 6 were clear Leonard rounds.

    Rounds 5 7-9 and round 12 clear Hagler rounds.

    With 10-11 being the most debatable rounds in the fight.

    Overall for me Leonard won too many of the early rounds for Hagler to win a decision, but i think this is one of the most legit draws i've seen personally.
     
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  3. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I can’t find by R-B-R scorecard but I know I scored it 114-114
     
  4. quintonjacksonfan

    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    If it was a draw would that be 13 consecutive title defenses for the Marvelous one or do draws not count as title defenses?
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Draws count.
     
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  6. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    They count.

    1 of the 20 title defenses for Bernard Hopkins at 160 was the No-contest against Robert Allen when he fell out of the ring, so they count those as well.
     
  7. SixesAndSevens

    SixesAndSevens Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    Another 7-5 for Leonard, I'm a big Hagler fan but was very disappointed by his performance for most of this fight (especially early on). Once he turned it up he showed that he could put a real beating on Leonard, but he made the mistake of wading in too late when he already had some fatigue on him, in addition to being up against a fighter like Ray who made him look slow in the ring. He should've hit more to the body, used more flurries, stuck out the jab and straight left, etc. etc... I'm sure that you've heard it all before.

    With that said, all respect goes to Leonard for pulling it off and using every step and punch to make it his fight, both in scheduling it as a 12 rounder, and with his general tactics through the fight.
     
  8. Yorbals

    Yorbals Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler gave the fight away in the first four, gave Leonard an early Christmas present and Ray said well thank you very much
     
  9. Ike

    Ike Active Member Full Member

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    I remember I had 115-113 for Leonard, a close fight where Sugar Ray could have won and Hagler paid for a slow start. The 118-110 score, however, is unacceptable and disgusting.
     
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