Hagler vs. Monzon. Battle of the Legends.

I loved how Monzon ruled the 70's, but I just don't think any of his challengers, top quality that a lot of them were, as anything quite like prime Hagler.

King Carlos would indeed rise to the occasion and more than hold his own. But Marvin, I believe, with his relentless body attack, would gradually grind Monzon down. The result I envision is Hagler by decision, or possibly, LATE round TKO. Marvin will have surely earned his paycheck, but Carlos has very little left by fight's end.

 

Yeah I'm sure Hamsho and Sibson brought more money too right. Look, he is a great middleweight, but an all-time p4per, uh I would hvae trouble saying that if there isnt a great middleweight around in his era and he refuses to go up in weight when the light-heavyweight division was very strong.

Thomas Hearns moved up to light-heavyweight, but Hgaler doesn't have to because of the business sense, haha.

If Vito Antuofermo was able to rough him up, and an old Bennie Briscoe had him backpedalling, can you imagine what Qawi would do to the guy?

 

Well the fact that Hearns was going for 4 weights world titles made it a good business decision. His fights against Andries and Roldan were much bigger than they would have been because of the 4 weight thing and the intrigue that came with it.

Hamsho and Sibson were the top contenders, he had to fight them.

Qawi would no doubt rough him up, no argument there, and probably beaten him up, but um...so what? I just still don't get your arguement that a fighter has to move up in weight to be considered great. But if that is your measuring stick then there you go. Pedroza and Sanchez not great then?

 

He is great, but you have to move up to be a p4p great. Not hard to understand the logic. I think he would have a solid chance at beating eddie mustafa, cuz eddie would get fat here and there, but make no mistake about it, he would be taking a huge risk.

 

But with your logic then, it is impossible for a heavyweight to be a pound for pound great.

 

That depends, its a completely open wieght class. I mean Valuev outweighs many guys by about 50 pounds.

Heavyweights in general are underrated, I mean Ali clearly has Duran beat when it comes to resume and overall legacy. Yet those duran fanboys wanna call him a greater fighter. Beating Sugar Ray Leonard once out of 3 times is great, but it isnt that Symbolic that you suddenly become better than ali cuz of it.

 

Monzon by UD here, 9-6 say.

 

The best of Hagler via razor thin decision. No bets going down, though.

 

wtf? Somebody should look into an atlas.

But interesting read. I see it similar to these guys Monzon by UD, something between 10-5 and 8-6-1 in rounds.

 

The more I look at this one the more convinced I am that Monzion wins. His style would be too much for Hagler. He wouldn't be drawn into becoming the aggressor and even if he did he would still win. It's close but Carlos wins.

As for weight classes...

Only napoles moved up to fight Monzon, the others were already MWs and already had been champions.

Guys jumping around the weights these days often do so to avoid other fighters, pick off weaker belt holders etc...

 

I think Hagler had more skills. He was faster, he was a harder two handed puncher. He had a killer jab. Both had iron chins. Both were very strong. I just think Hagler was a sharper punching, more versitile puncher and would win a very hard fought decision. He better pace himself though ....

 

You make a good point amigo. I hadn't really thought of Hagler like this before. Anyone saying money was the answer is talking shite, he didn't only have 5 fights in him, he had ample time to fight the fab 3 and fit in fights v McCallum and some light-heavys as well.

 

Briscoe must have taken too many head shots if he thinks Argentina is in Europe. Anyway Monzon via close UD 15

 

Monzon wins prime for prime IMO. I'd probably favor him over any MW.

 

I think I weighed in on this already, but I'll say Monzon by decision or late stoppage on cuts. Great fight though.
Was this ever close to happening? I know their careers overlapped a little. I don't think Monzon ducked anybody but I don't think you go looking for a Hagler unless the rankings/mandatory makes you.