Hagler vs Ray Robinson

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Who wins how?

  1. Hagler Decision

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  2. Hagler Stoppage

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  3. Sugar Decision

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  4. Sugar Stoppage

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  1. Steve Fero

    Steve Fero Active Member Full Member

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    Peak Hagler vs peak middleweight Robinson. Who wins?
     
  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I'd say Robinson wins a hard fought decision. I'm convinced Leonard won their fight. Peak middleweight Robinson could do everything Leonard could do and then some. And yes I know Hagler was a little past it, but Leonard had been inactive for a few years.
     
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  3. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    We’re talking 1950-51 Robinson vs 1981-85 Hagler. I’d pick the Robinson that beat LaMotta to take a very hard fought decision over Hagler - maybe even on a split decision.

    Could be the most aesthetically pleasing middleweight title fight ever - a contrast in styles for sure but hopefully a meshing of styles too. I’d also be fascinated to see what Robinson made of Hagler’s switch-hitting. I can’t remember how many southpaws Robinson faced but Hagler wasn’t your normal southpaw.
     
  4. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich 'Iranian flag green' reflecting pool Full Member

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    I actually think Robinson wins by a decision but the poll feels like it doesn't represent how close the fight would be so I'm giving Hagler a pity vote.
     
  5. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marvin close decision.
     
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  6. SwarmingSlugger

    SwarmingSlugger Active Member Full Member

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    Ray Robinson and it's a clear victory. Maybe Hagler would come out and fight orthodox the first 4 rounds like he did against Leonard, what a dunce.
     
  7. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Marvin is the greater middleweight, but Robinson has the style and toughness to beat Marvin, with his hard, fast flurries. He’d have Hagler a bit preoccupied and taken out of his game.

    This one’s about styles.
     
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  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    @MW I got Hagler to win a decision
     
  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I'd vote on Hagler to outman him. It wasn't like Ray was some defensive genius. He was an offensive powerhouse with great footwork. I think that Marvin would catch up to him and sweep the latter rounds.
     
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  10. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Robinson wins a decision in a single one-off matchup, but this fight will be an utter hell that will test both men, and if they fight multiple times nobody's going to bat 1.000.
     
  11. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich 'Iranian flag green' reflecting pool Full Member

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    Now that the poll is no longer 10-0 in favor of Robinson I am retracting my pity vote.
     
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  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I like Hagler by split decision
     
  13. META5

    META5 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hagler would struggle to solve the blend of handspeed and power that Robbi possessed.

    He can't come at Robbi like he did Tommy - Robbi is just more durable, experienced and better in the furnace of hostility and taking back initiative.

    I still don't like Hag's arguable drop in confidence when facing a fighter of Robbi's legendary calibre - his passivity against Duran and throwing away early rounds Vs Leonard make me second guess him against Robbi.
     
  14. Fireman Fred

    Fireman Fred Active Member Full Member

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    Hagler was a terrific fighter but struggled with fast handed boxers.

    Willie Monroe defeated him (even Hagler admitted he lost that first fight), Bobby Watts got a lucky decision but he did give Marvin problems as did Sugar Ray Seales in their first 2 encounters.

    He didn´t look great against Duran and losing to comebacking Leonard (coming off one unimpressive fight, dropped by a powerpuff punching welter, over the last 5 years) does not inspire me to pick Marvin over Sugar Ray Robinson.

    SRR by tough but clear decision over 15 wonderful rounds.
     
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  15. Steve Fero

    Steve Fero Active Member Full Member

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    The Duran fight is definitely a knock on Hagler but I think he gave him too much respect. Leonard fight is not Ray L was one of the greatest P for P. Robinson as a middleweight was probably not quite the fighter he was as a welter. He was 30 already in 1950. He beat LaMotta badly but he was not on same level as Hagler. If Hagler is fierce unlike the Duran fight it’s very close maybe a draw. If I have to pick I ll go split decision Sugar Ray R.
     
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