hagler vs toney

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  1. groot

    groot Active Member banned Full Member

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    Marvin that fought hearns
    Vs toney that fought barkly 15 rds.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Sorry Groot this goes in the Classic section.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No big deal.
     
  4. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think Hagler was prime for the Hearns fight. Prime for prime, I believe Marv decisions James due to his movement and workrate. Also, this fight could go 50 rounds and no one gets knocked out.
     
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  5. BCS8

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    At MW, I take Hagler without question. He was always conditioned to the nth degree, and I think that besides Toney's cuteness, Hagler was the better fundamental boxer, and had more power, and was more flexible. He had a big chip on his shoulder and a mean streak a mile wide. Toney at MW was not as good as he would be at the higher weights.
     
  6. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney fought Barkley at 168 pounds.

    At 160, I take Hagler by UD. He would outwork Toney who was at his best at 168 pounds.
     
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  7. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler would dominate Toney, esp Prime vs Prime. Though Hagler wouldn't stop Toney, he wouldve beat the hell out of him. Though Toney had A.T.G skill level. Their was something missing. And that was the desire. And that would've been the difference in the,fight .
     
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  8. BCS8

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    Exactly that. Hagler was the sort of guy to walk through fire for the win, and he came in tuned against everybody. That's what I meant by him having a mean streak. He couldn't handle the idea of another guy being better than him.
     
  9. HerolGee

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    weight is critical here. at 160 hagler is prime andoutpoints toney marginally.

    above that toney takes it, same manner.
     
  10. BCS8

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    Somebody else must have Herol's phone :thinking: These posts make way too much sense :nusenuse:
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not at all. Expect Toney to do the better than Duran. Hagler by close decision
     
  12. frankwornank

    frankwornank Active Member Full Member

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    Toney beats Hagler. I know that goes against the grain but while Hagler was a heck of a fighter, he tends to be overrated. Toney is the exact opposite, also a heck of a fighter but very underrated.
     
  13. Fergy

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    Interesting match up. A prime Hagler gives James his toughest fight . Toney would no he was in with a guy he couldn't intimidate and was just as hard core as himself. Toney I can see would be the best version of him self in this fight, no taking round off and going to sleep in this one!Hagler would find this one tricky, the shoulder rolls, sneaky fast punches from off the ropes, tone grinning at marvellous. But Hagler s a pro and still goes to work. Dishing out his hardest punches through a scowl! It's always Hagler slightly ahead, toney tried his best but at the end it's Hagler by unanimous. But both men leave the ring with respect for each other.
     
  14. heizenberg

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    This is one of the ultimate match ups at middleweight. I see it being a very close fight fought at a fast pace. I think they would split the early rounds but hagler would come on late and win the fight. I would love to see a prime young toney go 15 rounds with hagler