Hagler vs Tony Ayala Jr.

Those were sparring sessions.

Have you seen those Ayala fights that he went the distance, or went long rounds against Cottrell/Baker/Cheatam?

 

Ive seen the Cheatam fight. Tony took his time in that fight, and methodically destroyed Cheatham in 6.

Tony's most impressive win is over Herrea, which was his last fight before prison. Herrra was a ranked guy, who went the distance with hard punching Maurice Hope. Ayala took him out with one left hook.

 

laxpdx is a champ, i might take to Tony a bit but he and i PM a bit and i showed him ages ago where plenty of Ayala fights were obtainable if he wanted to chase them up one day etc.

 

Hitman vs. El Torito? Now thats a great fight

 

I can't believe this is a real thread

 

Im cool now with laxpdx johnthomas,but whats up with roosty???!!! :rofl

 

Fellow Ayala lovers

 

I agree. A prospect who never even faced a world class opponent being discussed in a matchup with arguably the best middleweight ever.

 

Tony, you're the man, but you just can't win everybody over!

 

Not when discussing his chances against Hagler. Could you please explain to me how Tony would beat Hagler? Hagler had the best chin of all time so Tony aint stopping him, and Ayala certainly couldnt outbox Marvin. So how does he win?

 

What I said earlier was that if Tony was fighting a prime Hagler, then I'd give Hagler a SLIM edge, as I think they are pretty evenly matched. However, if it was post-Hearns Marvin, then Ayala would clearly win, as Hagler was in steady decline by that point.

 

Thank you John, you're a gentleman, too!

 

Thank you, Rooster! What would I do without you?

 

well saying Tony would just walk through all those guys is easy to do with words, but in reality I see him losing to all the greats. Hearns would have swelled him up and knocked him out in 3 or 4, Hagler would have stopped Tony in 6. Benitez would out box him. Leonard would stop him in 8. Duran would have stopped him in 10.. Tony just was not the quality of those guys and really we will never know, but I saw him fight lesser quality and get hurt a few times. He was not that great.